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As said above that 33's are nonexistent and 32's are slim to nil.
The only 32's that I know of that I would consider is the one in the classifieds with 496 HO's but seems nice but a little and makes me wonder why everything was replaced?
The pier 57 redo...this boat is in my backyard and it came out awesome but I don't think Scott will sell it. He will probably keep it for a show piece. If he does sell it, it will probably be priced up there with a 33, so the 33 would be the choice.
Also saw one on Craigslist from Miami...has boxes and 525sc's. This one is interesting to me because of the setup but the saltwater scares me so much that it doesn't interest me.
The only 32's that I know of that I would consider is the one in the classifieds with 496 HO's but seems nice but a little and makes me wonder why everything was replaced?
The pier 57 redo...this boat is in my backyard and it came out awesome but I don't think Scott will sell it. He will probably keep it for a show piece. If he does sell it, it will probably be priced up there with a 33, so the 33 would be the choice.
Also saw one on Craigslist from Miami...has boxes and 525sc's. This one is interesting to me because of the setup but the saltwater scares me so much that it doesn't interest me.
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Keep the info coming about the 32 and 33's. Would love to learn everything about them. Pics, speeds with what power, how or if boxes helps.
Powerplays are as hard to find as well but would like to here if any other mainstream boats "somewhat" compare. My heart is with AT and will probably have to wait as long as it takes for the right one to come along or win the lotto but just wondering.
Thanks!
Powerplays are as hard to find as well but would like to here if any other mainstream boats "somewhat" compare. My heart is with AT and will probably have to wait as long as it takes for the right one to come along or win the lotto but just wondering.
Thanks!
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Guys, thanks for all the replies! I am learning a lot and enjoying the read.
PPJ - I'm not ready to buy yet, probably be a couple of years...just trying to get my ducks in a row. Before I even started this thread I was in love with the 33 AT but there just aren't enough out there to be had. I have been window shopping for AT's for a couple of years now and they are hard to find. I feel I have a better chance of finding and being able to afford a 32.
PPJ - I'm not ready to buy yet, probably be a couple of years...just trying to get my ducks in a row. Before I even started this thread I was in love with the 33 AT but there just aren't enough out there to be had. I have been window shopping for AT's for a couple of years now and they are hard to find. I feel I have a better chance of finding and being able to afford a 32.
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Amenities are top notch on the AT fo sho
I have a stupid question not related... so the AT is supposed to be a wave crusher AND not take a ton of HP to run fast.
How is this accomplished?
Characteristics of a wave crusher is weight, but its not heavy since they run fast so how can you crush waves AND be fast?
I have a stupid question not related... so the AT is supposed to be a wave crusher AND not take a ton of HP to run fast.
How is this accomplished?
Characteristics of a wave crusher is weight, but its not heavy since they run fast so how can you crush waves AND be fast?
The hull design kinda counteracts the weight and gives it speed.
In a different business where we repair and paint/ graphic boats I see failures from some high profile builders that make me shake my head as to why they would be put in a position of liability and warranty for the sake of a few MPH.
There was a period of time where we ran faster and were lighter than many builders but warranty issues made me rethink being the fastest in smooth water to being the most fearless in rough water.
I chose the rough water. Hence a boat that rides very well in rough water but is agile and quick through design. When I land that solid "thump" is all I want to hear.
So the answer to your question really is that it is a wave crusher with a combination of weight and hull design but at the same time fast to hull design alone. DDC patented. I don't see a patented hull design with any of the competition but many will pay $100k+ to get a boat that doesn't handle safely and has warranty issues for a better advertised name.
Why?
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[QUOTE=ActiveThunder;3822355
There was a period of time where we ran faster and were lighter than many builders but warranty issues made me rethink being the fastest in smooth water to being the most fearless in rough water.
I chose the rough water. Hence a boat that rides very well in rough water but is agile and quick through design. When I land that solid "thump" is all I want to hear.
If more went that route less would break up. I can think of a few...
I much prefer playing in the rough over all out speed on flat water. Good job!
There was a period of time where we ran faster and were lighter than many builders but warranty issues made me rethink being the fastest in smooth water to being the most fearless in rough water.
I chose the rough water. Hence a boat that rides very well in rough water but is agile and quick through design. When I land that solid "thump" is all I want to hear.
If more went that route less would break up. I can think of a few...
I much prefer playing in the rough over all out speed on flat water. Good job!
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[QUOTE=Bad-Influence;3821992]Keep the info coming about the 32 and 33's. Would love to learn everything about them. Pics, speeds with what power, how or if boxes helps.
Powerplays are as hard to find as well but would like to here if any other mainstream boats "somewhat" compare. My heart is with AT and will probably have to wait as long as it takes for the right one to come along or win the lotto but just wondering.
Thanks![/QUOTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYIJ...e_gdata_player
Powerplays are as hard to find as well but would like to here if any other mainstream boats "somewhat" compare. My heart is with AT and will probably have to wait as long as it takes for the right one to come along or win the lotto but just wondering.
Thanks![/QUOTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYIJ...e_gdata_player
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Both my boats and Dan's boats had long, straight keels with wider lifting strakes in approximately the same place. If you can get Steve Koss to way in he would explain better.
Why do the handle well and fly so level? Go to your local "rack and stack" and walk under the boats and look up.
Where do the inner lifting strakes end?
A 45' Sonic ends where a 33 Sonics end. Same with Cig and so on and on. But only on the Vees. They stretched the boats but not the lifting strakes (aka WING). Good reason why the porpoise and nose dive all over the place. They have no lift!
Simple reason any good ol' 32 AT or 33 PP will run better with the big boys! We fly level and true.
BTW, before I bought AT I had a 30 Sonic SS and spent time at PP discussing a new 33. But I am 6-1 and slightly larger than Weinstein and just didn't fit. Hence the last 20 years building the ATs.
Done rambling......
B-I., don't give up!