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paradigm shift
02-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Started a new thread as most of these end up real negative. Hopefully this one will not. We all know the story of those that have bad expierances because like the news that is what gets all air time.

Anyway for the other 29' profile owner looking for 100 mph I would like to see how your project goes. I have a 97 29' and hit a brick wall at about 85mph. I was running about 700hp guessing as the motor was never on a dyno. Boat now has a 502mpi with Tyler Crockett heads and cam. Gas was killing me 2 years ago with the blower and I hurt a couple of pistons during a wekend on the Scaramento Delta but that is another story.

For performance on the 29 I do not know how other 29s ride but mine is flat and wet or a lot of the bottom in the water. Great ride but not the best for speed.

We have over 900hrs on the boat and no real problems that others have had. I new what I was getting when I bought and tha price was right. We really enjoy ours. :drink:

duunoit
02-11-2007, 10:04 PM
I'm sure that there are plenty of satified Profile owners. The problem that had with mine was in no-way the fault of Profile. I'm sure that John (the new owner of Plumb Crazy) will be plenty happy with it when he gets it put back together. I think that their boats are really good looking.


I wonder why there aren't more Profile owners on this (or the other) board... I'm sure they've built a pretty good number of boats over the years. Hopefully they will start showing up.

lightning jet
02-12-2007, 04:26 PM
I think its a great boat we'll see how fast next year

boatguy94
02-12-2007, 04:28 PM
I have a 94 Profile and am seeing the same problem of trying to get bow lift. Running a blown 540, dyno 800hp (ATECO). Talked to Randy about the boat running uneven, port side low. I have to keep the trim tab down about 2" to keep the boat level. He said to run the lower unit lefthanded. Called and talked to Max Machine and they did not recomend reversing the rotation, therefor at a loss of what to do. Anyone have this problem

cosmic12
02-12-2007, 04:58 PM
We had a 96 29 with a 500hp that did the same thing. Always had to drag the port tab to keep it level, Randy said the same and it was tried and didn't help at all. that was back in 97/98. I would take a look at the strakes are they stright???? I dought it. Also there may be to much hook on the starboard side.

FASTTIMES
02-12-2007, 05:58 PM
I have a 94 Profile and am seeing the same problem of trying to get bow lift. Running a blown 540, dyno 800hp (ATECO). Talked to Randy about the boat running uneven, port side low. I have to keep the trim tab down about 2" to keep the boat level. He said to run the lower unit lefthanded. Called and talked to Max Machine and they did not recomend reversing the rotation, therefor at a loss of what to do. Anyone have this problem

I have a buddy with a profile.. He had the same problem, he switched to a left hand prop and changed the shift cable,, You can test the prop by running the boat in reverse to go forward and forward for reverse. If it cures your problem, change the shift cable.. you don't have to reverse the gears.

Good luck

flenner
02-12-2007, 08:57 PM
Here is my '99 Profile. Sorry to hear about everybodys problems (be it legal or mechanical).

duunoit
02-13-2007, 08:36 AM
Does it get better (or worse) with drive trim? If so, it could be a drive depth issue. The only problem is, if you were to shorten it up, you'd probably have a worse bow lift problem. Maybe a different prop?


I have a 94 Profile and am seeing the same problem of trying to get bow lift. Running a blown 540, dyno 800hp (ATECO). Talked to Randy about the boat running uneven, port side low. I have to keep the trim tab down about 2" to keep the boat level. He said to run the lower unit lefthanded. Called and talked to Max Machine and they did not recomend reversing the rotation, therefor at a loss of what to do. Anyone have this problem

boatguy94
02-13-2007, 01:44 PM
It seems to be unchanged at any speed or trim position. Was using a 28 4 blade hydromotive, went to a 28 Mach1 both labbed, don't see any difference. I have thought about trying a left handed prop, but don't want to have a problem with the lower unit. Max Machine said something about the way the cluch was wound that they did not recommend spinning it left handed, Randy said it did not make any difference.

duunoit
02-13-2007, 01:54 PM
I think the hydromotive Q-IV are stern lifters and the Bravo I's are supposed to be bow lifters. Have you tried a Bravo I? I wonder if Max Machine's setup is different than a bravo. I think they still use a cone clutch, just like a bravo and it is ok to run a Bravo in either direction. Maybe Randy thought that you were running a Bravo drive. I wouldn't want to risk screwing up your drive, if it was me...

boatguy94
02-13-2007, 02:47 PM
Sorry I do have the 28 Bravo1. Called it a Mach1, that's what my last boat was. May do some more investigating with Max and/ or checking the hook. Any more ideas would be greatly appreciated. Love the boat otherwise.

paradigm shift
02-17-2007, 12:07 AM
It seems to be unchanged at any speed or trim position. Was using a 28 4 blade hydromotive, went to a 28 Mach1 both labbed, don't see any difference. I have thought about trying a left handed prop, but don't want to have a problem with the lower unit. Max Machine said something about the way the cluch was wound that they did not recommend spinning it left handed, Randy said it did not make any difference.

Well I am no expert on drives for sure but when you run them left hand it tries to push the top cap out rather than the floor inside the drive. I am not sure about the clutch question but there are some here on the board that would know if you posted in the Tech forum. Lots of twin engiine boats running one drive left handed that is for sure.

One thing I do know is my 29 did not work at all with right hand drive. Complete different boat and I did not like dragging one tab. I always have ran mine left hand other than some testing. I likes a 3 blade actually but I just can not handle the cavitation so I run a bravo1 4 blade.

Racegirl3
02-18-2007, 01:31 PM
I'm sure that John (the new owner of Plumb Crazy) will be plenty happy with it when he gets it put back together.


Look for it to be runnin a few OPA races in the near future :cool:

tblrklakemo
02-25-2007, 03:46 PM
The profile in the latest HOTBOAT mag looks pretty nice. They say the new owner has gotten things togather well.

Jackhammer405
03-03-2007, 09:16 PM
The profile in the latest HOTBOAT mag looks pretty nice. They say the new owner has gotten things togather well.

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

Jackhammer405
03-03-2007, 09:19 PM
We had a 96 29 with a 500hp that did the same thing. Always had to drag the port tab to keep it level, Randy said the same and it was tried and didn't help at all. that was back in 97/98. I would take a look at the strakes are they stright???? I dought it. Also there may be to much hook on the starboard side.

Cosmic,
I noticed the same thing on every single engine NON stepped hull boat I have been in. My Baja and Checkmate did it too.

Jackhammer405
03-03-2007, 09:21 PM
I have a 94 Profile and am seeing the same problem of trying to get bow lift. Running a blown 540, dyno 800hp (ATECO). Talked to Randy about the boat running uneven, port side low. I have to keep the trim tab down about 2" to keep the boat level. He said to run the lower unit lefthanded. Called and talked to Max Machine and they did not recomend reversing the rotation, therefor at a loss of what to do. Anyone have this problem

What brand Prop were you running?

boatguy94
03-05-2007, 09:12 AM
I'm running a Bravo1 28 labbed 4 blade. I also have a Hydromotive 28 labbed 4 blade that makes it worse. ( No bow lift). My budy has a 5 blade Bravo thinking about trying, but it is a 30 and I don't think I can spin it.

Jackhammer405
03-05-2007, 12:50 PM
Try the 5 blade even though you may not be able to spin it. It will come out of the hole like rocket but be careful because the extra grip is really hard on the drive.
If you can get a hold of a Mirage Plus 3 blade I would try one. They seem to give the best overall speed and will give excellent bow lift as well.
If the 3 blade works then I would send it out to have it lab finished and balanced.
I had the same thing happen with my 25 Outlaw. I would run the 3 blade most of the time because it was the fastest and gave the most bow lift.
Jackhammer:cool:

cosmic12
03-05-2007, 04:10 PM
Cosmic,
I noticed the same thing on every single engine NON stepped hull boat I have been in. My Baja and Checkmate did it too.

I have owened many single's and the only one I ever saw this happen on was a Profile. My Last one was the 28 A.T.( see my avitar) 525 Xr and never had to use the tabs to keep it level.

boatguy94
03-05-2007, 06:20 PM
I wonder what the new Profile owner's recomendation is?

bblythe
03-05-2007, 07:02 PM
I wonder what the new Profile owner's recomendation is?

I have a 99 30ft with no touble but it has twins

Jackhammer405
03-05-2007, 10:53 PM
I have owened many single's and the only one I ever saw this happen on was a Profile. My Last one was the 28 A.T.( see my avitar) 525 Xr and never had to use the tabs to keep it level.


You mean the need for tab to keep it level right?

Does the Profile have a notched transom?

boatguy94
03-06-2007, 08:08 AM
No, mine is not stepped.

bblythe
03-06-2007, 08:40 AM
No, mine is not stepped.
A notch transom does not mean it is stepped it means the area where your waterplugs on trans is set back about 10inchs I believe all profiles run notch trans

boatguy94
03-06-2007, 09:21 AM
Not sure what you mean, the transom is straight down with no insets.

ob'sea'ne
03-06-2007, 09:28 AM
I have owned 2 profiles, a cat with 575 merc. no troble with boat did have drive trouble merc. fixed concern and Randy and Debbie were very helpful. Traded for a 33v with twin 575 its drive system great boat it is a 2005 model. What little concerns I have had Randy and Debbie were helpful in every way!!

bblythe
03-06-2007, 09:29 AM
I stand corrected I thought all profile ran notched transoms

jwp51
03-15-2007, 05:57 AM
I beleive only the 37 38 & 40 have the notched transome.

duunoit
03-15-2007, 04:34 PM
The 308 I sold to John, has a notched transom.

lightning jet
03-21-2007, 04:05 PM
yep the 308 has a notch and a delta pad should'nt take much to make it fly

toypuller
10-02-2007, 11:16 AM
I ordered a 299 mid cabin in 2004 525hp xr drive and had to run the port tab way down to keep the boat up right,talked to randy sent the boat back to dealer they never did get it right,and by the wat RANDY said the boat would run in the low 80s it never saw 70 on the GPS dont belive them.....

CCstinger260
10-02-2007, 11:55 AM
There was a thread I think in the Fountain or prop forum on the same subject. I think it was with regards to some of the smaller single engine fountains running LH rotation on the props to counter-act engine torque. If a strake was built up to compensate and right the boat w/o using trim tabs, it would definitely scrub off speed. LH prop would be a better option if available.

h2oparty
12-27-2007, 05:17 PM
I have played with this a little... I think it all depends on drive gears, prop, horse power, and fat people vs skinny people . I own a 27' Profile. When I bought the boat it had a 502 with a B&M 250 spinning 1.36 gears and no prop. I borrowed a 26p Bravo 1 and took a mile long runway to get up on plane, once on plane the boat reached 76 mph on GPS easy with only a little bit of chine walk and no lean. I then purchased a 1.5 Bravo out drive with a labbed 28p left hand prop to see if I could cure the chine walk at 76 mph but the boat leaned to the starboard side at 50mph. I then switched back to a 28p right hand prop and the boat ran again an easy 75 78 mph but had chine walk. I do not run tabs at all on this hull. The previous owner had mounted the dual batteries over in the far starboard side of the motor compartment. I have moved them back to under the rear seat on the port side. the boat sits more level on the water at the dock now but has not changed the chine walk. The 27 Profile has a notched transom. So far with my set up the only time the boat leans is if I let fat people aboard or I pack up the ice chest to full..
The hull does take a lot of positive trim to get air under them and they definitely don"t like flat water. I have ridden in boats over 30' that don't ride as nice as my Profile. :cool-smiley-011:

FX10
01-28-2008, 07:35 AM
I have a 94 Profile and am seeing the same problem of trying to get bow lift. Running a blown 540, dyno 800hp (ATECO). Talked to Randy about the boat running uneven, port side low. I have to keep the trim tab down about 2" to keep the boat level. He said to run the lower unit lefthanded. Called and talked to Max Machine and they did not recomend reversing the rotation, therefor at a loss of what to do. Anyone have this problem

Run a left hand wheel, and the hull will straighten out. We changed our 30 Y2K to left hand because of that. And Fountain also changed their 29 to left also.

boatguy94
01-29-2008, 02:50 PM
What do you mean by " left hand wheel"?

profiler
02-04-2008, 08:04 PM
the prop is a left hand rotation prop not a right hand as most single engine io's are.

maddogps80
02-14-2009, 06:28 PM
No trouble with boat handling ,but had a lot of trouble with new owner,took my money for tarp then went belly up

eastsideoffshore
03-27-2009, 01:30 PM
for paradigm shift , I ran 798hp at 84-86 gps on flat water I had a prop done we extended the blade s 1/4 " now I get the bow out of the water but no extra speed ,it will run 84 through about any thing ,

lightning jet
12-08-2009, 05:52 PM
maybe 2010 will be the year I get this thing done lol

duunoit
12-08-2009, 05:59 PM
I was wondering how you were doing with the old Plumb Crazy... couldn't remember your username or email since I changed email here at the house. Anyway, how is it going?

lightning jet
02-04-2010, 06:53 PM
whats up bro not on here much,been working on all kind of stuff,just not mine lol maybe this year, I got the transom ready to go just need to figure out the power.I have three merc 525 efi's in peaces so maybe we will use two of them up?

duunoit
02-04-2010, 08:54 PM
That thing is going to move with 525s in it.

lightning jet
03-01-2011, 08:18 PM
well here it is 2011 and I'm just now geting this thing in the shop

We started guttin and cleaning and noticed the smell of gas so it looks like the tank will have to come out yip f in E.

here's some pics and vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa6-qxv3spo

duunoit
03-01-2011, 08:22 PM
I thought that thing had a metal tank in it...

lightning jet
03-01-2011, 08:24 PM
here is the pics

lightning jet
03-01-2011, 08:32 PM
I thought that thing had a metal tank in it...

Alluminum and when it set's in water it rotts

I have been down this road before,the old gas would be jelly by now anyway so it is easyer to just replace the tank.

jwp51
03-02-2011, 05:50 PM
Hi Guys,

We feel its time to let the cat out of the bag.... You all know that Profile closed in 2008.

We have purchased the molds last year and have spent the last six months repairing, cleaning and lots of updating.

The company is moving to our new plant at Lake of the Ozarks next month.

Our company is Nautical Racing Group LLC (NRG Boats)

Let me know your thoughts.

Jim Prouty
NRG Boats
608-604-8970

powercat
03-02-2011, 06:42 PM
Hi Guys,

We feel its time to let the cat out of the bag.... You all know that Profile closed in 2008.

We have purchased the molds last year and have spent the last six months repairing, cleaning and lots of updating.

The company is moving to our new plant at Lake of the Ozarks next month.

Our company is Nautical Racing Group LLC (NRG Boats)
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Let me know your thoughts.

Jim Prouty
NRG Boats
608-604-8970
SWEEEEEET! That is awesome! Did you guys get the cat molds? This is really good news and you really need to start a thread on this. There are a lot of guys out there that that will be happy to hear this, me included. Can you give us some details, power options, updates, etc.

lightning jet
03-02-2011, 07:00 PM
tanks out

lightning jet
03-02-2011, 07:03 PM
more

jwp51
03-02-2011, 07:42 PM
Yes we have all the molds. so if there are any needs just let me know. I'll do what I can.

There is other BIG changes to come that will be new for performance boaters. I'll write more on this later.

We have two boats out of the molds - first out is a 30' open bow, powered with a 8.2 merc. we also have a 38' out of glass, power is to be determined later.

Call me with any questions or send me a message. Let all your friends know..

Lastly, we will be going to a limited number of Poker Runs. I am looking for suggestiions on which one to go to.

Jim 608-604-8970 ([email protected])

lightning jet
03-03-2011, 06:45 PM
Got some grinding done today and moved in a new project

dws
03-05-2011, 10:47 PM
glad to hear about your new endevour. i would love to hear more details. im sure there are lots of us out here who would! we have a great powker run in june, on ky lake. just google ky lake powker run also called the carl flood memorial. lots of room to let the horses run. would love to invite you to come and bring new boats. im sure your thinking bigger venue, but want to invite you anyway.

lightning jet
03-06-2011, 02:56 PM
Sound like a good time,a bunch of my buds go down there every year maybe we can make it this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvKCYhuVOFg

lightning jet
03-08-2011, 08:54 AM
The new transom

duunoit
03-08-2011, 08:58 AM
I hope I didn't cut out anything that you needed. Haven't looked at your pictures full size, did you replace the notch, too?

jwp51
03-08-2011, 09:31 AM
I'm looking into going, We will be at another one on the 24th in upper N.Y.
Do think that there may be many Profile boats at your run?

Jim

lightning jet
03-09-2011, 09:53 PM
I hope I didn't cut out anything that you needed. Haven't looked at your pictures full size, did you replace the notch, too?

The notch was the only thing that was good lol

lightning jet
03-15-2011, 08:04 PM
new X

duunoit
03-15-2011, 08:06 PM
Looks good. How much did you raise it?

lightning jet
03-15-2011, 08:11 PM
From 15 1/2 to 17 7/8th,it's easyer to space down then shorty up lol

lightning jet
03-19-2011, 12:42 PM
getting closer

lightning jet
03-25-2011, 09:43 PM
latest the last pic is the refection

dws
03-26-2011, 10:25 PM
out of 100 boats there would maybe be 5-10 profile's. the last few years there have been a couple of new prototype boats showing up to test and tune. prettycool ! if you decide to show and need help with any logistics just let me know. the person who heads it up is a friend of mine.

onesickpantera
04-18-2011, 07:51 PM
Hi Guys,

We feel its time to let the cat out of the bag.... You all know that Profile closed in 2008.

We have purchased the molds last year and have spent the last six months repairing, cleaning and lots of updating.

The company is moving to our new plant at Lake of the Ozarks next month.

Our company is Nautical Racing Group LLC (NRG Boats)

Let me know your thoughts.

Jim Prouty
NRG Boats
608-604-8970

That is great news! Have a web site yet?

lightning jet
11-17-2011, 08:58 PM
Wow how time flys here is the latest,prep for paint

lightning jet
01-08-2012, 12:50 PM
Wow I just looked at the first post ,it's been five years allready :lolhit: .

Here is the latest

jwp51
01-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Great looking boat!!! you all did a great job.

Congats.

lightning jet
01-16-2012, 05:21 PM
more

duunoit
01-16-2012, 05:23 PM
Did you keep the X at the same spot or raise it?

lightning jet
01-16-2012, 05:37 PM
From 15 1/2 to 17 5/8th up .....

jwp51
01-16-2012, 10:26 PM
That is great news! Have a web site yet?

Sorry for the extended reply,

Yes we have our web site up and running (www.nauticalracinggroup.com) I still have to get the information on our 38 & 40' boats. We also have our 30' open bow completed. It will be at the St. Louis boat show for all that are interested to check it out.

lightning jet
01-24-2012, 07:27 PM
tEsT

lightning jet
01-30-2012, 06:32 PM
Color sand and buff then rig time :cartman:

duunoit
01-30-2012, 06:33 PM
Looks good john. Can't wait to see it finished.

TeamSaris
01-31-2012, 08:04 PM
The cats run freakin awesome, we built the motor in this one
900hp will just touch 130
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN1TKQ1drB0

glassdave
02-10-2012, 10:19 AM
:thankyouthankyou:

lightning jet
02-10-2012, 11:49 AM
Cut it sticker boy

BARNES4586
02-19-2013, 05:19 AM
I love mine it hits 70 with a 496 ho and it does not hook and rises out really well

BARNES4586
02-19-2013, 05:20 AM
I did have to re work the transom tho!!!