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Old 03-28-2013, 02:57 PM
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Alright, someone make me smart.

I think when the warranty is up (or before if I find one at the right price) I am going to lean towards the H&S mini maxx.

Couple Questions;

1 - Do ALL the H&S Mini Maxx tuners (that aren't the "street version") have both DPF AND EGR delete?
2 - Why do some come with a Pyro Kit? I know that when used on the Ford they can measure EGT's from the PCM, but is that an accurate measurement or is that a measurement from within the EGR system that will get eliminated with the delete kit?
3 - When ordering a DPF delete pipe do I need a bung? I assume I do if I run the Pyro? Of course that harks back to question 2.
4 - There seems to be a difference in discussion between blocking off the EGR and Deleting all the hardware. What is the benefit of deleting the hardware all together? If you just block it off is there still unwanted coolant flow through the system that is detrimental?

FINAL question - I know the XRT Pro doesn't have monitoring capabilities but does it have Defuel options like the Mini Maxx?? Can it monitor and clear engine codes?

I liken all of this to a Transom Assembly breakdown - all the information and forum posts can be a little overwhelming until you go through it once and realize how simple it is.

My enthusiasm is getting a little ahead of my pocket book but that's okay......
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Originally Posted by seafordguy
Alright, someone make me smart.

I think when the warranty is up (or before if I find one at the right price) I am going to lean towards the H&S mini maxx.

Couple Questions;

1 - Do ALL the H&S Mini Maxx tuners (that aren't the "street version") have both DPF AND EGR delete?
2 - Why do some come with a Pyro Kit? I know that when used on the Ford they can measure EGT's from the PCM, but is that an accurate measurement or is that a measurement from within the EGR system that will get eliminated with the delete kit?
3 - When ordering a DPF delete pipe do I need a bung? I assume I do if I run the Pyro? Of course that harks back to question 2.
4 - There seems to be a difference in discussion between blocking off the EGR and Deleting all the hardware. What is the benefit of deleting the hardware all together? If you just block it off is there still unwanted coolant flow through the system that is detrimental?

FINAL question - I know the XRT Pro doesn't have monitoring capabilities but does it have Defuel options like the Mini Maxx?? Can it monitor and clear engine codes?

I liken all of this to a Transom Assembly breakdown - all the information and forum posts can be a little overwhelming until you go through it once and realize how simple it is.

My enthusiasm is getting a little ahead of my pocket book but that's okay......
They cant sell anything but street tuners now unless you can find the right connection , and xrts you do not have defuel protection , if its a 6.4 you already have a factory pyro , its going to be expensive but worth it in the long run . you dont need any bungs that would be post turbo anyways , worthless .and yes the xrt can clear and monitor codes . XRt is the simplest it will take you longer to do the download than cut the exhaust and put a pipe in , you will also want to put an air intake kit in with the stock set up and a new filter it will suck the air filter monitor in right from the getgo it needs alot more air . Let me know if you are interested in one , non street .

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H&S no longer sells anything but the street tuning tuners now. The EPA steped in and is hammering most of these companies. So basically you cant get anything but the street tuner.

The last of the non street tuners are probably gone, a few pop up every once and awhile. But people are paying a lot of money for them used.

The pyro kit is a really nice thing to have but you can put one of those in at anytime. Not sure where the Ford actually takes it reading but you want the pyro in the manifold.
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Originally Posted by JD Dearden
H&S no longer sells anything but the street tuning tuners now. The EPA steped in and is hammering most of these companies. So basically you cant get anything but the street tuner.

The last of the non street tuners are probably gone, a few pop up every once and awhile. But people are paying a lot of money for them used.

The pyro kit is a really nice thing to have but you can put one of those in at anytime. Not sure where the Ford actually takes it reading but you want the pyro in the manifold.
They are all over ebay brand new in box. Appears the vendors stocked up on them before the EPA crackdown.
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Originally Posted by seafordguy
They are all over ebay brand new in box. Appears the vendors stocked up on them before the EPA crackdown.
Buy one! Still need the delete stuff also...
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Just need about a 60 inch piece of 3.5 pipe and the exhaust is done , depending on cab length .
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I did the H&S on a 6.4 f 450
No mileage improvement
Smoked big time
I took it all off and put the dpf back on
Lesson learned!!
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Originally Posted by fossil fuel
I did the H&S on a 6.4 f 450
No mileage improvement
Smoked big time
I took it all off and put the dpf back on
Lesson learned!!
yes something went way wrong there , should have consulted them , every one I have done turned out great .
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I did! Had the lowest smoke setting, still billowing when trailering
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Originally Posted by fossil fuel
I did the H&S on a 6.4 f 450
No mileage improvement
Smoked big time
I took it all off and put the dpf back on
Lesson learned!!
You did something wrong or the tune was incorrect.... we've had 6.4 and 6.7 trucks tuned/dpf delete etc, all saw nice mpg increase (let alone power). No F-450, but a friend did his and saw a big improvement especially in mpg on that truck.

These trucks all run better/smoother tuned then from the factory (that goes for Dodge and GM as well), even lower egts.
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