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Old 04-29-2014, 08:46 AM
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I am installing a Hardin Marine xtreme series oil pan on my 496 stroker. It came with a bolt on pickup tube but there are directions with the pan stating to braze the pickup tube. The pickup tube I have on the motor now is a bolt on but its not brazed. Can I get by without having it brazed? I really dont want to pull the oil pump off.
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Mine was a real loose fit in the pump. I welded it so it couldn't suck air.
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Originally Posted by lil red
Mine was a real loose fit in the pump. I welded it so it couldn't suck air.
I have heard that this is one reason to braze the pickups 360*. What about using some type of oil-resistant sealant, like The Right Stuff?
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Lost my last motor to silicone on the pickup tube. Po put way too much silicone on the pan and it came off inside. Guess I'll just braze it.
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Yeah I wouldn't use silicone near the pickup tube.
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Good catch on that. What was I thinking?

On a related note, you have to be careful about welding slag if you weld it on. I found out first hand how much that can tear up a pump with my last motor. Piece of slag got sucked up and galled up the gears. Apparently it's a good idea to bang your pickup against a hard surface to knock loose any potential slag from where they welded on the screen. Don't know how common it is, but I can see where it could happen. This article mentions it, and has some other good info about pumps and pickups:

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2009...mp-technology/
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Thanks for the info.
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If you weld it I would take it apart and TIG weld it with a high nickel filler wire and use a back up gas inside the tube. That will not produce any slag.. When you are done make sure the surface is flat.
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