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Old 07-31-2004, 10:27 PM
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Now that I have your attention,,,I finally got my blown strbd motor back in and decided to try my 29" 4 blade Hydromotovives in place of the 3 blade 27"mirages. When rimed to #4 and running 65 it felt very light and unstable in the rear.I had just a slight tab down and I spin out. The boat has never felt that way until I was at 72 with no tabs and #5 on drive trim. Do I need less trim with the Hydros????More tabs????Still got about 10-15 mph but want to still live thru it.Motors are willing,stability is not. HELP!!
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Old 07-31-2004, 10:35 PM
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some boats don't like the additional stern lift.

My 17' padvee outboard was setup for bowlifting props. One day I tried a 32 Merc Racing Cleaver on it. Talk about clenched rectum. That was absolutely the edge of death for sure. It did run a few mph faster than my labbed 28 Chopper, but it was just nuts. A 32 chopper ran the same 100+ mph speed and was FAR more predictable.
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Old 08-01-2004, 09:13 AM
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Is it possible that these Hydros need very little trim from the neutral position to achieve the same bow lift(or stern lift like you said)?Certainly feels like stern lift. Seems when I trim from plowing the nose down for planing to what feels like a good cruise trim it's almost instant,maybe 1 or 2 max on the indicators. I thought hydros gave less lift? I didn't mention this is on a 29' non-step Fountain/twin 454 mags. I'll play with it some more today. Any suggestions on tab/drive configuration or should I just sell them and run mirages?
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If it makes the boat uncomfortable for you, then ditch them.

I would personally see what they got to offer, both spinning in and out for comparison, before I tossed em. I've not been driving your boat, so I can't comment on how weird it is feeling, but sometimes weird is just different.

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if your boat got on plane with the three blades ok then I would most likely keep them on, a lot of the newer fountains have a high X on the drives and you can not get on plane with a three blade prop, for the most stable ride make sure your props are turning out. if you were turning those hydro 4 blades in, swap then around and try turning them out, that will make a more stable ride
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Old 08-01-2004, 12:38 PM
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try spinnin the props oposite ?
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they are spinin' out. I trimed out farther today and it felt better. Got it to 73mph at 4300. More prop than it needs but 54 at 3200 is coooooooooo.Before I was at 73 at 4750 and it takes off just as well. Hope to uprade the other one this winter. When I say it feels wierd (originally)I mean the arse end is moving left and right at speed.
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my buddy said 29s are kown for chine walking
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What size motors do you have? 4300 rpm's sound kinda on the low side, Jeff
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I would try reverse pitching the props to negative 15 degrees and increasing the diameter while decreasing the angle. This will solve your problem and increase your speed by at least 5 mph. Old secret!!!!!!!!!!!!
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