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Old 12-23-2008, 07:04 AM
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The question is "did Baja make the boat for the Euro market, or did they make it to be imported back to the states?"
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"and a pilot that was a great guy".......Steve wasn't a bad guy for being an ex marine pilot!
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by five cent worth
The question is "did Baja make the boat for the Euro market, or did they make it to be imported back to the states?"
Just guessing but I would assume they were under license to build them and sell to the European market.
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:52 AM
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[QUOTE=XT-Innovator;2764026]
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. Funny how in those days one guy did a rendering like this, and took ALL the credit as the "Designer" while 10-20 other people did the detail work to figure things out, and got zero credit.

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And it's changed today how?

But hey without the rendering the other 10 to 20 would not have a clue what they were working on.

It's still a nice looking boat.
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Originally Posted by XT-Innovator
Wow, some of this is before my time when I started working for Baja in 1984.

In the mid-late 70's there was production of some Bajas in Arkansas, mostly the Cararra models, and some others became models for Concord Boats. In the mid-late 80's Baja was riding the "high horse" with max. production in Ohio, and a small (production only) site in Texas. Bev Carlisle even went down to be a superviser as she recalls. Get this! Aurthor Anderson was our accounting firm at that time and they really F***ed the Texas plant bad.

Things were great in the late 80s with a private Citation Jet to communicate, and a pilot that was a great guy. We even sponsered a car in NASCAR around that time. We also had purchased land in Florida, and started to develop it for a new plant. THEN the first Gulf War hit, and that was just as bad as things are now with boat building. We lost over 50% of our dealers that year, and had to borrow millions to get through that time period.

Business was slowly getting better, and it wasn't until late 1994 & cash flow was soft, then we asked the bank if we could skip a payment. Well that back-fired and the bank DEMANDED payment, and sold the note before we could come-up with the cash. There are more details to this, but that is how Brunswick came to own Baja. Doug Smith stayed on until 1999 as President under Brunswick, and they were good years up until he retired. I think the more recent history is better known, and I am getting tired of pecking at the keys.

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That is very interesting reading Dave. Thanks very much for sharing that. Where in Arkansas did they build the boats at do you remember?
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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
Just guessing but I would assume they were under license to build them and sell to the European market.
This is correct. They were to build/sell them over there, and Baja Boats was to get a cut from every sale. We discovered that that did not always happen, and the deal went bad. The guy that ran Baja Spain was pretty smooth, and I remember the office women going nuts every time he was over here.

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Originally Posted by XT-Innovator
The guy that ran Baja Spain was pretty smooth, and I remember the office women going nuts every time he was over here.

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Was his name Blake?
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Dave- was the plant in Arkansas run by Neil Baker? Or had he gone on to Concord by then? I like this history stuff!
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[QUOTE=Dock Holiday;2764164]
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And it's changed today how?

But hey without the rendering the other 10 to 20 would not have a clue what they were working on.

It's still a nice looking boat.
Yes, but look how different the real 370 looked from the rendering. In the more recent history boat designs were all done in the computer in 3d. Everything is figured out before we even made the hull mold, that was cut on a 5 axis router.

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Originally Posted by X-Driver
Dave- was the plant in Arkansas run by Neil Baker? Or had he gone on to Concord by then? I like this history stuff!
I am not sure about that? What was the name of the town for Dock? I would know it, if I heard it.
How did you know Steve Eyestone. Did you work with us back then?

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