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Old 01-06-2009, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Boats unlimited
Thanks for the replys. I still would like to know if this hull turned into the 32 mag then 32 cal then the 32 OL and if the 33 OL came from this hull or how did the 33 Ol come about? I think it was the 32s but not sure if it ended up the 33 OL. I will say this the 33 OL set up right is a running son of gun. Thanks
OK, the original Force 320 lasted from 1984 - 87' then it was the Force 320 (raised deck version) on the same hull for 1988, & 89'. The model was deleted in 1990, & 91' when we introduced the 300 ES in 90' and re-named to the 320 in 91'. The original 320 Force hull, and (flat) deck was brought back into production in 1992 as the Magnum, then late 1993 was called the 32 Caliber, then I think it was late 1995 that it was re-named again as the 32 Outlaw. The 33 Outlaw design started as the same 32' hull with a "nose job" that added 12", the hull sides went from concave to convex, the chines were given a 3 degree downward angle, and we added a rounded delta keel. The 320 Force (hull mold) lasted from 84' to 98' and was ready to retire when the 33ol was born in 1998. Both models are buried in the local Crawford County landfill.

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Old 01-06-2009, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by XT-Innovator
OK, the original Force 320 lasted from 1984 - 87' then it was the Force 320 (raised deck version) on the same hull for 1988, & 89'. The model was deleted in 1990, & 91' when we introduced the 300 ES in 90' and re-named to the 320 in 91'. The original 320 Force hull, and (flat) deck was brought back into production in 1992 as the Magnum, then late 1993 was called the 32 Caliber, then I think it was late 1995 that it was re-named again as the 32 Outlaw. The 33 Outlaw design started as the same 32' hull with a "nose job" that added 12", the hull sides went from concave to convex, the chines were given a 3 degree downward angle, and we added a rounded delta keel. The 320 Force (hull mold) lasted from 84' to 98' and was ready to retire when the 33ol was born in 1998. Both models are buried in the local Crawford County landfill.

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XT am I reading this right the Force 320 hull was reworked and became the 33 or was there a completely new mold developed when the 33 came into existence.
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XT am I reading this right the Force 320 hull was reworked and became the 33 or was there a completely new mold developed when the 33 came into existence.
The hull "plug" to build the 33 Outlaw fiberglass hull "mold" was a 320 Force hull to begin with. Then we made the changes (cut and fill) that I metioned above. This became the new mold for the 33. The 320 hull mold was then scraped.

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Old 01-08-2009, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fleg1
I have a 87 Force 320 that was rotton from the cabin bulkhead to the transom.. The engine bilge bulkhead and stringers were mulch, the transom had a few solid spots but not many..

As far as the foam in the floor mine didn't have any..

On a older boat like the one your talking about I would pay a GOOD surveyor to check it out before even offering a dime.. I elected not to do this when I bought mine and it cost me a fortune to rebuild the boat...

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Jeff,

You have a great looking boat. I did not know you had those issues and it just goes to show that they can be corrected and you end up with a real sweet boat. Better to know up front for sure but after seeing the work that Kevin Brown at Lakeway does anything can be fixed.

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Fleg I look forward to seeing it this year some time, have you done anything to the interior?
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Fleg I look forward to seeing it this year some time, have you done anything to the interior?
Yes After I rebuilt the structure and custom built the fairing I had the whole boat painted inside and out..I updated the Dash with monster gauges and a new wheel.. I had the interior done in solid white and bought 2 new solid white Aero Bolsters from a Baja employee.. Added the aluminum swim platform from a Nordic which fit perfect, it is actually longer than the standard platforms that Baja used..I just recently put 2 new 470hp 502's in it.. I raised the X diminsion 3" and also installed Imco extension boxes..Actually the boat looks like a 90's model caliber.. As far as the cuddy that is still original.. My intentions are to redo it in the white vinyl and re-carpet and new solid wood cabinetry..

I have a ton of pics in the gallery on TBM of the rebuild and such.. Just do a search using my user name and you will find them ( FLEG1)
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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
Jeff,

You have a great looking boat. I did not know you had those issues and it just goes to show that they can be corrected and you end up with a real sweet boat. Better to know up front for sure but after seeing the work that Kevin Brown at Lakeway does anything can be fixed.

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Thanks for the comment Doc... I enjoy it.. Especially since I did 100% of the work myself..
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Jeff,
That is a lot of speed for 470 HP. Mine is a 1994 32 Caliber running 2 650+ HP and best to date is 86.3 MPH running a set of labbed 28 B1's I got from Doc at 5700 RPM's. I know my X is low and I plan on putting -2 shorties on over the winter hoping to hit the 90's.
How far below the boat are your propshafts now? mine are just over 6 1/2 inches below.
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Jeff,
That is a lot of speed for 470 HP. Mine is a 1994 32 Caliber running 2 650+ HP and best to date is 86.3 MPH running a set of labbed 28 B1's I got from Doc at 5700 RPM's. I know my X is low and I plan on putting -2 shorties on over the winter hoping to hit the 90's.
How far below the boat are your propshafts now? mine are just over 6 1/2 inches below.
Brian, nice sunpad, where did you get it done and how much work and cost was involved?
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Jeff,
That is a lot of speed for 470 HP. Mine is a 1994 32 Caliber running 2 650+ HP and best to date is 86.3 MPH running a set of labbed 28 B1's I got from Doc at 5700 RPM's. I know my X is low and I plan on putting -2 shorties on over the winter hoping to hit the 90's.
How far below the boat are your propshafts now? mine are just over 6 1/2 inches below.
I'm right at 4.25" below the bottom.. Actually since I put the boxes on I could really come up higher now... Well I seen the GPS #'s after the guy that had it before me that ran it with carbed 500's on Stelling boxes with 1.36 imco drives and it was a tad under 84mph... I don't really know what it's gonna run, like I said I'm basing my estimated #'s from what he was running.. My drives are 1.5's so I'm not sure if that will make it slower or faster shouldn't really matter though because it's just a different pitch in propeller!!!!
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