Anyone with a 30 OL install Raylar BCK103 kits on your engines?
07-29-2009, 01:14 PM
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Hope this helps.....
We have 2 "new" similar 2010 Sunsations 32'. One has the stock Merc 496 Mag HO's, and the other has 496's with the Raylar 525 kits. The stock HO boat runs 86.7 mph - top speed and the Raylar boat runs 91.6 - top speed. The mid range is much stronger (most impressive difference) on the Raylar boat, and the low end is very similar to one another.
I would guestimate if you were to do this kit on a (stock set up) Baja 30' O/L, you would pick up (an honest) 4 MPH. The Baja's hull design will take a little more hp's to gain the speeds, over some other stepped hull designs - Don't take me wrong, as I don't mean this as a negative thing.
We've set up a-lot of 30' O/L's, with the proper set up and some minor changes, we've seen (an honest) 80+ MPH speeds out of that boat with HO's. Therefore if you were to decide on the Raylars and do some minor changes, I could see your boat capable of running in the mid 80 MPH's.
I'm interested in hearing what you decide.
We have 2 "new" similar 2010 Sunsations 32'. One has the stock Merc 496 Mag HO's, and the other has 496's with the Raylar 525 kits. The stock HO boat runs 86.7 mph - top speed and the Raylar boat runs 91.6 - top speed. The mid range is much stronger (most impressive difference) on the Raylar boat, and the low end is very similar to one another.
I would guestimate if you were to do this kit on a (stock set up) Baja 30' O/L, you would pick up (an honest) 4 MPH. The Baja's hull design will take a little more hp's to gain the speeds, over some other stepped hull designs - Don't take me wrong, as I don't mean this as a negative thing.
We've set up a-lot of 30' O/L's, with the proper set up and some minor changes, we've seen (an honest) 80+ MPH speeds out of that boat with HO's. Therefore if you were to decide on the Raylars and do some minor changes, I could see your boat capable of running in the mid 80 MPH's.
I'm interested in hearing what you decide.
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07-29-2009, 03:27 PM
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Prop changes (high pitch, lab finished) , X dimension, (drive height) delete cabin options and weight from boat. This is what we have done to get a 30 to an honest 80.
Boat 4 fun might have more tweaks
Boat 4 fun might have more tweaks
07-29-2009, 04:59 PM
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Straight from Baja the "typical" 30' O/L w/ HO's runs "around" 75 / 76 MPH (pending options / extras / conditions / sea level / etc)
Inward Prop Rotation / 28" Lab Finished Props / PCM's (re-calibrate) / Bottom (straight edge / fix all dings - nicks - scuffs - high / low spots - sharpen all edges) / Thru-Hull Exhaust (remove muffler systems) / Additional Air Intakes (into engine compartment)
- Hook up scan tool > Delete all previous codes / make certain throttles are opening 100%.
- Go through drives and make certain cambered correctly. Baja usually had the drives towed in from the factory. We liked to set them at straight, or (towed out a hair - bringing the props closer together), this way if flex occurs, it brings back to straight.
With everything done (correctly), is "usually" good for 2-3 MPH.
Also, we "typically" had our X dimensions raised from the factory (pending the customers wants & where the boat was being used). This was "usually" good for 1 MPH over stock.
* This isn't the perfect set up for everyone, nor is it going to be the fastest set up in every area, this is good for top speeds, on smooth to 2' choppy conditions, in our specific area / conditions.
Inward Prop Rotation / 28" Lab Finished Props / PCM's (re-calibrate) / Bottom (straight edge / fix all dings - nicks - scuffs - high / low spots - sharpen all edges) / Thru-Hull Exhaust (remove muffler systems) / Additional Air Intakes (into engine compartment)
- Hook up scan tool > Delete all previous codes / make certain throttles are opening 100%.
- Go through drives and make certain cambered correctly. Baja usually had the drives towed in from the factory. We liked to set them at straight, or (towed out a hair - bringing the props closer together), this way if flex occurs, it brings back to straight.
With everything done (correctly), is "usually" good for 2-3 MPH.
Also, we "typically" had our X dimensions raised from the factory (pending the customers wants & where the boat was being used). This was "usually" good for 1 MPH over stock.
* This isn't the perfect set up for everyone, nor is it going to be the fastest set up in every area, this is good for top speeds, on smooth to 2' choppy conditions, in our specific area / conditions.
07-30-2009, 12:30 PM
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A guy I know said a guy he knows had a buddy!! WTF
Somebody is dishing out bad info here. The 30ft. Outlaws that have done Raylar 525 kits have seen everywhere from 7-10mph increase when everything on the props and bottoms are right.
Call me and I give you the phone numbers of 30ft Baja owners with real world results. Funny how there are all these all of a sudden experts on this site with all our results?? Some Baja hulls depending on year and models did have some pretty nasty hooks on the bottom and believe me when I say until you have a good bottom you can throw big horsepower at any hull and end up with lousey results. As most know in performance boating there are a lot of factors beyond power that determine boat speed, performance and handling!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Call me and I give you the phone numbers of 30ft Baja owners with real world results. Funny how there are all these all of a sudden experts on this site with all our results?? Some Baja hulls depending on year and models did have some pretty nasty hooks on the bottom and believe me when I say until you have a good bottom you can throw big horsepower at any hull and end up with lousey results. As most know in performance boating there are a lot of factors beyond power that determine boat speed, performance and handling!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
07-30-2009, 04:22 PM
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Somebody is dishing out bad info here. The 30ft. Outlaws that have done Raylar 525 kits have seen everywhere from 7-10mph increase when everything on the props and bottoms are right.
Call me and I give you the phone numbers of 30ft Baja owners with real world results. Funny how there are all these all of a sudden experts on this site with all our results?? Some Baja hulls depending on year and models did have some pretty nasty hooks on the bottom and believe me when I say until you have a good bottom you can throw big horsepower at any hull and end up with lousey results. As most know in performance boating there are a lot of factors beyond power that determine boat speed, performance and handling!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Call me and I give you the phone numbers of 30ft Baja owners with real world results. Funny how there are all these all of a sudden experts on this site with all our results?? Some Baja hulls depending on year and models did have some pretty nasty hooks on the bottom and believe me when I say until you have a good bottom you can throw big horsepower at any hull and end up with lousey results. As most know in performance boating there are a lot of factors beyond power that determine boat speed, performance and handling!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
07-31-2009, 08:06 AM
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Any idea what kind of numbers could be attained with a Baja 405?
Somebody is dishing out bad info here. The 30ft. Outlaws that have done Raylar 525 kits have seen everywhere from 7-10mph increase when everything on the props and bottoms are right.
Call me and I give you the phone numbers of 30ft Baja owners with real world results. Funny how there are all these all of a sudden experts on this site with all our results?? Some Baja hulls depending on year and models did have some pretty nasty hooks on the bottom and believe me when I say until you have a good bottom you can throw big horsepower at any hull and end up with lousey results. As most know in performance boating there are a lot of factors beyond power that determine boat speed, performance and handling!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Call me and I give you the phone numbers of 30ft Baja owners with real world results. Funny how there are all these all of a sudden experts on this site with all our results?? Some Baja hulls depending on year and models did have some pretty nasty hooks on the bottom and believe me when I say until you have a good bottom you can throw big horsepower at any hull and end up with lousey results. As most know in performance boating there are a lot of factors beyond power that determine boat speed, performance and handling!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
08-01-2009, 03:10 PM
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Ray, I didn't mean anything bad by my information. I'm just saying it they way I "personally" see it. I think 4-5 MPH "real speed" incresse is a-lot. I also said it was a guesstimate, as I have not done a 30' O/L with your motors.
I am simpily going off of our boat we have in stock right now, which I had your motors installed - 2010 Sunsation - 32' w/ Twin Raylar 525's. We just sold an identical boat w/ HO's, and there is about 5 MPH difference between the 2 boats.
Also, I am extremly happy with my choice of Raylar motors, a 32' Boat that runs above 90 MPH is very impressive!!
Sorry if that came across badly. This is why I don't like to post anything, to many variables.
I am simpily going off of our boat we have in stock right now, which I had your motors installed - 2010 Sunsation - 32' w/ Twin Raylar 525's. We just sold an identical boat w/ HO's, and there is about 5 MPH difference between the 2 boats.
Also, I am extremly happy with my choice of Raylar motors, a 32' Boat that runs above 90 MPH is very impressive!!
Sorry if that came across badly. This is why I don't like to post anything, to many variables.
