Extention Boxes on a Baja 36 Outlaw
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Dock has tried most everything, HP is the only thing that helps.
I have boxes and 525's had to replace both drives last year with about 100hrs on each. I see 76-78 mph with boxes, most without see 73-75, alot of money for 1-2 mph. I wish I had gone with more HP and better drives, I really like my 36 and plan on have a few more years great boat. one of the best wave crushers around. take care
I have boxes and 525's had to replace both drives last year with about 100hrs on each. I see 76-78 mph with boxes, most without see 73-75, alot of money for 1-2 mph. I wish I had gone with more HP and better drives, I really like my 36 and plan on have a few more years great boat. one of the best wave crushers around. take care
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Cheers BOSS302....Well i already have the boxes with imco shorties and must be on the good side of 500 hp per engine so it would cost no more money as such buying the parts, so whats your thoughts...
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go ahead and put them on, I hear the shorties dont work will with HP below 750 per side. let me know how things go. if you
can get on the plane and see a better top end let me know. thanks
can get on the plane and see a better top end let me know. thanks
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I had a 302 with 500's it was new in 01, the boat was a hand full, above 80 it would chime walk real bad. maybe with boxes that would not happen. how is it above 80-85? I could have put
600's in it ( the 36) for about the same money, I now wish that I had went that way.
600's in it ( the 36) for about the same money, I now wish that I had went that way.
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Okay we finally got out on Lake Norman yesterday for the first time since the boat was completed. First we checked the Throttle Position Sensors, then the timing and did some fine adjustment to the throttle cables to get them completely equal and mirrored to get other.
I put the 32 pitch 4 blades on that we have been running with the new engines and idled out to big water. The IMCO SCX drives only come 2 inch shorter and with the IMCO extension boxes it brings them down about 1-1/2 inch. So overall we raised the "X" about a 1/2 inch.
Much to my surprise the boat jumped up on plane faster than I ever remember it doing before. It hooked up and went! We ran it about two miles until the oil temperature came up and I got into the throttles. The down side was the very smooth flat water we had which scrubs speed bad off a true Vee hull. I quickly came over 70 mph, then 75 mph, all gauges looking great. I pushed the throttles a little more forward and started to hear the blowers singing a beautiful melody, it came up over 80 mph quick and right to 85 mph where I backed off and slowly shut her down to inspect everything under the hatch. All looked great and we made another run hitting 87 on the GPS. In the flat water that was about all she had without pushing the new outdrives harder than I want to until they get some break in time.
My thoughts on the extensions boxes:
1) They look really cool.
2) I no longer need to use the ladder to get in the boat.
3) They along with the drives made getting on plane easier.
4) The wake is really cool. Not a true rooster tail but cool.
5) Making a tight turn at speed felt much different than before. Not better and not worst just different. It will take a little getting use to.
6) Did I experience a performance gain? NO
I've heard that the SCX drives can scrub speed due to the larger foot print and the added horsepower required to spin them. I did not see that at all. Pretty much exactly where I was last year with the XR drives on flat water. I cannot get back out this weekend but look forward to getting out next weekend in rougher water and seeing if we break that 90 mph mark again.
I hope this helps a little. I did borrow a pair of 30 pitch 5 blades and we plan to run them next time and try them both spinning in and spinning out to see what she does.
Thanks for all the help guys, you know who you are!
P.S.
I have the original RED cockpit carpet with the Baja logo in it that came new in my 02 36 OL for sale. Good condition. I also have a BRAND NEW never out of the box original Baja full mooring cover complete that I would like to sell. I have two of them and almost forgot about this one. Let me know if interested in either. Thanks
I put the 32 pitch 4 blades on that we have been running with the new engines and idled out to big water. The IMCO SCX drives only come 2 inch shorter and with the IMCO extension boxes it brings them down about 1-1/2 inch. So overall we raised the "X" about a 1/2 inch.
Much to my surprise the boat jumped up on plane faster than I ever remember it doing before. It hooked up and went! We ran it about two miles until the oil temperature came up and I got into the throttles. The down side was the very smooth flat water we had which scrubs speed bad off a true Vee hull. I quickly came over 70 mph, then 75 mph, all gauges looking great. I pushed the throttles a little more forward and started to hear the blowers singing a beautiful melody, it came up over 80 mph quick and right to 85 mph where I backed off and slowly shut her down to inspect everything under the hatch. All looked great and we made another run hitting 87 on the GPS. In the flat water that was about all she had without pushing the new outdrives harder than I want to until they get some break in time.
My thoughts on the extensions boxes:
1) They look really cool.
2) I no longer need to use the ladder to get in the boat.
3) They along with the drives made getting on plane easier.
4) The wake is really cool. Not a true rooster tail but cool.
5) Making a tight turn at speed felt much different than before. Not better and not worst just different. It will take a little getting use to.
6) Did I experience a performance gain? NO
I've heard that the SCX drives can scrub speed due to the larger foot print and the added horsepower required to spin them. I did not see that at all. Pretty much exactly where I was last year with the XR drives on flat water. I cannot get back out this weekend but look forward to getting out next weekend in rougher water and seeing if we break that 90 mph mark again.
I hope this helps a little. I did borrow a pair of 30 pitch 5 blades and we plan to run them next time and try them both spinning in and spinning out to see what she does.
Thanks for all the help guys, you know who you are!
P.S.
I have the original RED cockpit carpet with the Baja logo in it that came new in my 02 36 OL for sale. Good condition. I also have a BRAND NEW never out of the box original Baja full mooring cover complete that I would like to sell. I have two of them and almost forgot about this one. Let me know if interested in either. Thanks
Last edited by Dock Holiday; 07-16-2010 at 06:05 PM.
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Cheers for the update dock great hearing about your boat and your passion for it too, looking forward to getting mine back even more now, will stick with the stock set up to start with and go from there, cheers for telling me about your cockpit carpet but my boat is dark blue/purple, all the best,
Charlie
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Dock,
I don't exactly need a cover, but I do know these are hard to find. Maybe PM me with what your asking for one. And what color it is. I have white with purple. I have a mooring cover now in nice shape, but never hurts to have a back up.
I don't exactly need a cover, but I do know these are hard to find. Maybe PM me with what your asking for one. And what color it is. I have white with purple. I have a mooring cover now in nice shape, but never hurts to have a back up.