Performance Mods 454 Outlaw 25
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Performance Mods 454 Outlaw 25
I have a 1999 25' Outlaw with a stock 454 and original 23P stainless prop. My boat is running 68 mph consistantly unless I have full fuel load and passengers. Will labbing the prop get me over 70 mph? What about a K & N air filter? Since the engine is fuel injected, is there and ECU like a car that can be reprogrammed / chipped to get more HP? I want to get over the 70 MPH hump. I don't want to supercharge for cost reasons and I'm told it's not good to do to the 454. What mods can I make to get more top end?
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Ok, first off I was not trying to be rude in the other thread. Just trying to be honest.
Is this a Mag 385HP or a 330/310 HP standard engine? Even with a 385Mag you should be seing GPS speeds of 61-62MPH. The K & N will make no difference at all unless the engine was modified and it needed more CFM. To make any real HP you will need exhaust, roller cam, lifters, springs, ect... ECM reprogram to match components. I used RMbuilder for a custom roller cam and matching componets. Just to warn you once the speed bug gets you there is no turning back.
Is this a Mag 385HP or a 330/310 HP standard engine? Even with a 385Mag you should be seing GPS speeds of 61-62MPH. The K & N will make no difference at all unless the engine was modified and it needed more CFM. To make any real HP you will need exhaust, roller cam, lifters, springs, ect... ECM reprogram to match components. I used RMbuilder for a custom roller cam and matching componets. Just to warn you once the speed bug gets you there is no turning back.
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Ok, first off I was not trying to be rude in the other thread. Just trying to be honest.
Is this a Mag 385HP or a 330/310 HP standard engine? Even with a 385Mag you should be seing GPS speeds of 61-62MPH. The K & N will make no difference at all unless the engine was modified and it needed more CFM. To make any real HP you will need exhaust, roller cam, lifters, springs, ect... ECM reprogram to match components. I used RMbuilder for a custom roller cam and matching componets. Just to warn you once the speed bug gets you there is no turning back.
Is this a Mag 385HP or a 330/310 HP standard engine? Even with a 385Mag you should be seing GPS speeds of 61-62MPH. The K & N will make no difference at all unless the engine was modified and it needed more CFM. To make any real HP you will need exhaust, roller cam, lifters, springs, ect... ECM reprogram to match components. I used RMbuilder for a custom roller cam and matching componets. Just to warn you once the speed bug gets you there is no turning back.
Last edited by BURNSMAZZ; 08-12-2010 at 05:53 AM.
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Labbing your propeller will get you closer to 70.
I would use BBlades to do the labbing. Brett knows his stuff.
I think the K&N is a waste of money for performance, but they do look good. While chrome won't get ya home, it looks as good on a working motor as a broken one.
I would spend the $$ on a set of Dana Marine manifolds & I would also replace the rocker arms with Comp Cams Pro Magnum roller rockers.
I did those 2 items to my 29 a few years ago & picked up somewhere between 3-5 mph over stock.
For a ECM tune I would contact Ben @ MEFITUNING.COM or Mark Boos at Precision Marine.
Ben does all my tuning & he has done several other Baja's, all with great results.
Good luck & enjoy spending more money than you budgeted for.
I would use BBlades to do the labbing. Brett knows his stuff.
I think the K&N is a waste of money for performance, but they do look good. While chrome won't get ya home, it looks as good on a working motor as a broken one.
I would spend the $$ on a set of Dana Marine manifolds & I would also replace the rocker arms with Comp Cams Pro Magnum roller rockers.
I did those 2 items to my 29 a few years ago & picked up somewhere between 3-5 mph over stock.
For a ECM tune I would contact Ben @ MEFITUNING.COM or Mark Boos at Precision Marine.
Ben does all my tuning & he has done several other Baja's, all with great results.
Good luck & enjoy spending more money than you budgeted for.
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I do not want to to argue about somthing as stupid as how fast your boat goes. But I have raced many 25' Outlaws. I know a guy with a 25' with a 502 Mag MPI and his runs 65-66. I know another guy with a 496HO and his runs 67-68. I know another guy with a 496HO with EMI exhaust and some head work his runs 69-70. Maybe going down river, with a tail wind, 70 deg day with no humidity, 10 gallons of fuel, no cooler one person in the boat, elevation at sea level, ext... you may se a little more.
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I do not want to to argue about somthing as stupid as how fast your boat goes. But I have raced many 25' Outlaws. I know a guy with a 25' with a 502 Mag MPI and his runs 65-66. I know another guy with a 496HO and his runs 67-68. I know another guy with a 496HO with EMI exhaust and some head work his runs 69-70. Maybe going down river, with a tail wind, 70 deg day with no humidity, 10 gallons of fuel, no cooler one person in the boat, elevation at sea level, ext... you may se a little more.
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The guy said his boat did 68 mph with a 454mag,you said it would only do 61-62mph on gps.I'm not arguing anything just saying some boats run different than others.Seems like you are the one that copped a little attitude here.Hell I wouldn't do anything to it,if it's running an honest 68 mph that's a damn good number.Turn key no problems.
Hey, I agree with you if it does run that fast I would not touch it, you may screw somthing up.
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Your right he never said it was GPS speed. I don't want to scare the guy off, looks like he has not replied back. There is a 25' Outlaw with a 502mag on utube that shows 70MPH on the Dream O Meter. It made me think of this post. I still have about 6hrs untill beer time. For now I will have to get back to work.