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Old 01-13-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pm203
True. You will just get a better one if you go to Phil.
Please enlighten me as to how it will be better/different?
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tbonepmp
Please enlighten me as to how it will be better/different?
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Better built, better paint, sometimes even faster. Let someone else enlighten you. I don't want to explain once again.(no disrespect to you)
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pm203
Better built, better paint, sometimes even faster. Let someone else enlighten you. I don't want to explain once again.(no disrespect to you)
LOL!!!
Better built? -- How is it different from lets say a Pier57 Cigarette?
Better paint? -- Grafik-Worx does awesome work, but there are alot of incredible painters/designers out there.
Sometimes faster, okay sometimes so they come with labbed props or herrings etc... Different gear ratio, x-dimension, etc...
Okay, so sometimes...
So I ask again, "HOW IS IT A BETTER ONE"?
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LOL!!!
Better built? -- How is it different from lets say a Pier57 Cigarette?
Better paint? -- Grafik-Worx does awesome work, but there are alot of incredible painters/designers out there.
Sometimes faster, okay sometimes so they come with labbed props or herrings etc... Different gear ratio, x-dimension, etc...
Okay, so sometimes...
So I ask again, "HOW IS IT A BETTER ONE"?
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Better built? Phil is at the factory and watches the build very closely. Does not allow any shortcuts.
Better paint? Alot of boats are painted at the factory. Unfortunately, they are inferior. Harold's paint is alot nicer than the factory's. (Dave Hunter is awesome as well)
Sometimes faster? Phil's boats are usually dialed in a little better. Sometimes they are lighter. Sometimes they have a slightly higher X dimension. Bottom line? Nothing against the other dealers, but when you are a lower volume ,exclusive Cigarette dealer close to the factory, odds are on your side for a nicer boat.
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Originally Posted by fountain40icbm
Dont let everyone on here tell you where to go. Go to the show and talk with all the dealers, Lip-Ship, Ocean Performance and Pier 57 ect.... If you need to trade see which one offers you the best deal. Your going to get an awesome Cigarette no matter where you go!!
you are a bit of a whore for ocean perf....
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Originally Posted by stecz20
you are a bit of a whore for ocean perf....
Well you're just a bit of a whore.... For E-DOCK that is... LOL
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Originally Posted by Tbonepmp
Well you're just a bit of a whore.... For E-DOCK that is... LOL
ill spare your life for that... that was low......
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[QUOTE=thisistank;2404867]
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OK, so what part did you not understand?
Apparently none...
The question is Tank, What part did you not understand?
I am saying even though Lipship owners may demand a higher dollar amount when they go to sell, that doesn't mean they are going to get it. I have also had enough experience to know that they don't bring more than a non-Lipship Edition Cigarette. They are going to bring whatever the market will. To some they may be worth more, to some they may be worth less, to some it just really doesn't make a difference.
Like Fountain40ICBM already stated, "He builds a great boat but when you really look at it you can do all of his little special touches through the factory or another dealer." I'm not trying to take anything away from Phil and/or his abilities to produce beautiful boats, I just think at times you embellish a little bit.
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[QUOTE=Tbonepmp;2404956]
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Apparently none...
The question is Tank, What part did you not understand?
I am saying even though Lipship owners may demand a higher dollar amount when they go to sell, that doesn't mean they are going to get it. I have also had enough experience to know that they don't bring more than a non-Lipship Edition Cigarette. They are going to bring whatever the market will. To some they may be worth more, to some they may be worth less, to some it just really doesn't make a difference.
Like Fountain40ICBM already stated, "He builds a great boat but when you really look at it you can do all of his little special touches through the factory or another dealer." I'm not trying to take anything away from Phil and/or his abilities to produce beautiful boats, I just think at times you embellish a little bit.
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Agree'd!!!
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Originally Posted by stecz20
you are a bit of a whore for ocean perf....
Hey where's your boat?? (Here comes the daddy comments) No i just think that people praise Philly too much and dont actually understand what he does and that others can do it as well. I said Ocean Performance to PremierPower by he may have to trade his Formula in and Ocean is a Formula dealer as well and could probably make him the best deal. Every dealer deserve a shot and someone shouldnt go by what others say! Find out for yourself!!
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