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Old 04-16-2008, 08:34 AM   #1
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RE: Rookie needs advise ...HELP

Quesyion ...! ! What would be the real actual speed ...

For a Cigarette 35 Cafe Racer weighing 5511 Lbs , less engines and drives ,

Now with a pair of 502ci / 415bhp year 2000.. with Bravo 1 drives , i guess they weigh 2600 Lbs both of them ,


Total weigh of both & fuel being 8500 Lbs


what propellers would you take in consideration ???

to have a good speed .... with this set up . !

is it possible to reach 70mph ???..: with this set up or perhaps if i install extension boxes to lift the X-Dimension 1 inch ....can i reach my target

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Old 04-16-2008, 08:58 AM   #2
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Quesyion ...! ! What would be the real actual speed ...

For a Cigarette 35 Cafe Racer weighing 5511 Lbs , less engines and drives ,

Now with a pair of 502ci / 415bhp year 2000.. with Bravo 1 drives , i guess they weigh 2600 Lbs both of them ,


Total weigh of both & fuel being 8500 Lbs


what propellers would you take in consideration ???

to have a good speed .... with this set up . !

is it possible to reach 70mph ???..: with this set up or perhaps if i install extension boxes to lift the X-Dimension 1 inch ....can i reach my target

Whatever:

Thanks

Clyde

I replied in your General thread but I will here too. You aren't going to come close to 70 with 415's. I am surprised at the weight figures you came up with. Sounds LOW....

Someone else with more knowledge of props will have to comment on the props but I would guess a Bravo 24 would be a lot of prop for that setup - maybe even too much??

Also, are you suggesting that with full tanks and everything back together that boat will only weigh 8500 pounds?? Fuel itself will weigh upwards of 1500 pounds.
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I replied in your General thread but I will here too. You aren't going to come close to 70 with 415's. I am surprised at the weight figures you came up with. Sounds LOW....

Someone else with more knowledge of props will have to comment on the props but I would guess a Bravo 24 would be a lot of prop for that setup - maybe even too much??
SFG, I'm sure that published weight is a dry weight also, right? So, 9400 plus 1400lbs fuel, coolers, gear, people.....
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Many thanks .for your information...

What i cant understand is how come i was there and saw myself the weighing of the boat and saw it marked at 5511Lbs

will see ..when i rig it ....

But thanks once again
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No way on the 70mph with 415s.. Props would by 23 pitch depending on the max rpm you want to run.
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SFG, I'm sure that published weight is a dry weight also, right? So, 9400 plus 1400lbs fuel, coolers, gear, people.....
That's the only way it makes sense to me. I can't imagine a manufacturer posting anything other than a dry weight. Curious about the 5511....

I can tell you this - behind the truck it sure as hell feels like 9400 PLUS fuel, gear, etc.....

23 P - yeah that probably makes more sense.

Either way I love my CAFE....you will too!
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I'm sure the approximate weight posted above is including engines and drives. The 5511 is without. Not sure what kind of weight the engines and drives are though.
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I'm sure the approximate weight posted above is including engines and drives. The 5511 is without. Not sure what kind of weight the engines and drives are though.
Certainly. Would be interesting to know if that was with TRS or Bravo?

When did the Bravo's become the standard in Cafe's? That spec sheet if from at least a 1990 or newer.
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My Cafe with 500's and Bravo's tops out right at 70. With the 415's I doubt you are going to see 70, maybe 65 or so but not 70.
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