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Old 07-14-2008, 11:11 AM
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Not that i am in the market for one, but seemed like a limited production run. Anyone know how many were actually made? I've only seen a blue & white one & a red/yellow/green one, both in mags.
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I spoke to Tim from Cigarette last week and he said it was out of production, I was interested in one. (would have been perfect for my lake..candlewood in CT)

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Unfortunately, the Vice was too expensive to build in comparison to the 38 & 39 TG's. You still have all the same systems in a 30' package versus a 38' package. In my opinion, most buyers that were looking at Cigs wanted something larger than 30'.

The same fate has happened to the Gladiator. Tim G from Cig told us the seamless hull/deck construction took many more hours to construct and most buyers would move up to a TG anyway.
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They are around if you look for them but it was a low production boat. There was a 525 one built with a watermelon paint job but most were 496 HO boats. For those who want a 30 Cigarette there is always the Mystique both in T/S and straight bottom design.

One Vice was destroyed in Katrina (silver/red) but it make come back to life in the salvage market.
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Speaking of Mystiques', how come the one from Canada has listed on OSO not sold?

Anyone know of any problems?

I was considering looking at that boat pretty serious if mine sold.
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price....


ive been shopping and seeing whats what for 8 months now...

u guys have no idea how bad it is out there...
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The 30 was supposed to be an "entry level boat" for first time buyers. It was to only come with 496's but I think Phil put 525's into one. I think ony 5 were built. Like others said, Skip scrapped the project after sales were horribly low and the cost of production was high.

I'm sure if someone wanted a new one they'd build it for a price.
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i'm suprised a 30' doesnt fit more people, for me it is the perfect boat, i could have looked at top guns the same yr or a few years older than my mystique but i wanted no part in the extra 8'...... the 30 is the perfect size for me...... for now.....!
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Originally Posted by thisistank
The 30 was supposed to be an "entry level boat" for first time buyers. It was to only come with 496's but I think Phil put 525's into one. I think ony 5 were built. Like others said, Skip scrapped the project after sales were horribly low and the cost of production was high.

I'm sure if someone wanted a new one they'd build it for a price.
Danny owned two 30 Vices before Phil built him the baby blue 42X- Powerboat Magazine boat. The 2nd 30 had 525's but he never took delivery of the boat since the 42X was in the pipeline. The 30-525 boat was advertised for like 290K when it was for sale which was insane then.
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Originally Posted by dreamer
price....


ive been shopping and seeing whats what for 8 months now...

u guys have no idea how bad it is out there...
Rephrase that last line,

"u guys don't want to believe how bad it is out there!"


Guys with 15-20 year old boats that were 150K new still think they are worth 100K because they did new vinyl, new trailer tires and a tune-up!
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