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05-05-2010, 01:58 PM
#22
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A guy here in Oklahoma just got $65k for his, and Phil is getting around $100k for the ones he's done. They are a niche boat, for people that already have the boats you have listed. Cash buyers than want essentially a collectors item boat to keep forever. Omerta has a 30 Unlimited with 700's for rough water days, and I have a cat. Our 20's are rare boats, and not meant for the same conversation as ones looking for "bang for the buck".
My boat & Omerta's are almost identical. They were built at the same time, & have the most current hull & deck. Both have fairings & pad bottoms, as opposed to the true vee bottom & windscreen found on the classics.
The ride between the classics & omerta's & I's, is pretty significant. Both deliver a great ride whether having a pad or the classic vee. The pad was added to the later ones, to increase top speed. Once the boat is on the pad, it rides almost completely out of the water.
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I had the chance to drive Johnny Marshalls last Summer, and that foot throttle is a blast. I struggled around the dock with it, but out on the water I got used to it & had a great time.
That 76 with the updated paint & interior is a great looking boat. Omerta's is probably my all time favorite along with Tom Abrahams. I looooove mine to death, & plan to do a few updates this Summer to it, with the idea of hanging onto it. I just get a little sad when I think of not having it, after looking for YEARS to find one in this nice of condition.
It also fits perfectly under my outdoor bar, lol:
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My boat & Omerta's are almost identical. They were built at the same time, & have the most current hull & deck. Both have fairings & pad bottoms, as opposed to the true vee bottom & windscreen found on the classics.
The ride between the classics & omerta's & I's, is pretty significant. Both deliver a great ride whether having a pad or the classic vee. The pad was added to the later ones, to increase top speed. Once the boat is on the pad, it rides almost completely out of the water.
Pic:
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I had the chance to drive Johnny Marshalls last Summer, and that foot throttle is a blast. I struggled around the dock with it, but out on the water I got used to it & had a great time.
That 76 with the updated paint & interior is a great looking boat. Omerta's is probably my all time favorite along with Tom Abrahams. I looooove mine to death, & plan to do a few updates this Summer to it, with the idea of hanging onto it. I just get a little sad when I think of not having it, after looking for YEARS to find one in this nice of condition.
It also fits perfectly under my outdoor bar, lol:
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05-05-2010, 03:21 PM
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A guy here in Oklahoma just got $65k for his, and Phil is getting around $100k for the ones he's done. They are a niche boat, for people that already have the boats you have listed. Cash buyers than want essentially a collectors item boat to keep forever. Omerta has a 30 Unlimited with 700's for rough water days, and I have a cat. Our 20's are rare boats, and not meant for the same conversation as ones looking for "bang for the buck".
My boat & Omerta's are almost identical. They were built at the same time, & have the most current hull & deck. Both have fairings & pad bottoms, as opposed to the true vee bottom & windscreen found on the classics.
The ride between the classics & omerta's & I's, is pretty significant. Both deliver a great ride whether having a pad or the classic vee. The pad was added to the later ones, to increase top speed. Once the boat is on the pad, it rides almost completely out of the water.
Pic:
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I had the chance to drive Johnny Marshalls last Summer, and that foot throttle is a blast. I struggled around the dock with it, but out on the water I got used to it & had a great time.
That 76 with the updated paint & interior is a great looking boat. Omerta's is probably my all time favorite along with Tom Abrahams. I looooove mine to death, & plan to do a few updates this Summer to it, with the idea of hanging onto it. I just get a little sad when I think of not having it, after looking for YEARS to find one in this nice of condition.
It also fits perfectly under my outdoor bar, lol:
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My boat & Omerta's are almost identical. They were built at the same time, & have the most current hull & deck. Both have fairings & pad bottoms, as opposed to the true vee bottom & windscreen found on the classics.
The ride between the classics & omerta's & I's, is pretty significant. Both deliver a great ride whether having a pad or the classic vee. The pad was added to the later ones, to increase top speed. Once the boat is on the pad, it rides almost completely out of the water.
Pic:
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
I had the chance to drive Johnny Marshalls last Summer, and that foot throttle is a blast. I struggled around the dock with it, but out on the water I got used to it & had a great time.
That 76 with the updated paint & interior is a great looking boat. Omerta's is probably my all time favorite along with Tom Abrahams. I looooove mine to death, & plan to do a few updates this Summer to it, with the idea of hanging onto it. I just get a little sad when I think of not having it, after looking for YEARS to find one in this nice of condition.
It also fits perfectly under my outdoor bar, lol:
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05-06-2010, 08:15 AM
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I have never agreed on the pricing of the 20, but for those who want one, its their $$. I almost bought a 21 cig. with an outboard a few years back, but got my 24 Pantera instead, dont know where I am going with this, but if I had the $$ to burn, I might buy one, just because they are different.
05-06-2010, 08:19 AM
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A Picasso just sold for $106.5M this week. Do you thing that is overpriced? You can go to a starving artist show & get paintings for $25. Why would anyone want to spend $100M for one? Will your $25 go up in 10 yrs? Doubt it. But i bet that rare Picasso could fetch more in 10 yrs. It's not for everyone, like the 20, but those that have the means can enjoy whatever their art is regardless of what others think its worth.
05-06-2010, 07:16 PM
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Not sure I'd put a Cig 20 in the class with a Picasso but the analolgy is right on...there are many "collectors" out there, artwork, coins, wine, cars, etc.
The Cig 20 is a limited build from perhaps the most recognizable name in the performance boating industry...and they are a blast to tool around in. I live on a lake and all I have to do is drop the lift and go...it is the PERFECT ride during the week when the weekenders are away.
BTW it's loud and everyone looks!
The Cig 20 is a limited build from perhaps the most recognizable name in the performance boating industry...and they are a blast to tool around in. I live on a lake and all I have to do is drop the lift and go...it is the PERFECT ride during the week when the weekenders are away.
BTW it's loud and everyone looks!
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05-06-2010, 09:10 PM
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05-06-2010, 11:25 PM
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Oh I'm sure there are others that find them overpriced, but they aren't the people they are selling to.
I'm not sure why you'd imply anyone would lie about one recently selling for $65k? Both the owner & many others can easily confirm it. The boat was one of the ones Phil built a few years ago with brand new everything, and the current owner just wanted to move it.
That's just one of quite a few that have sold for WELL over the $50k mark, and like I said, the ones being built brand new, are comfortably over $100k. I don't think many would spend that if they were boat-less & shopping, but someone looking for maybe a 2nd, or definitely 3rd boat to play with on days they don't want to get their bigger boat out, are all over these.
The little Donzi's & Apache's have a cult following too, there are just a LOT of the Donzi's out there, & hardly any of the Apaches that have been fixed up. The Apaches also were outboards for the most part.
