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Well, I'll chime in as well since I'm playing with props as well.
When I bought the boat the previous owner Jeff was thinking the motors were putting out about 550 hp.
It had a pair of bravo 1 26s on it, and ran right at 72 at 5200 rpm. That was a bit more rpm than we wanted for those big motors, I was looking to get closer to 4800. (they are 582 cu. carb motors)
So, I put on a friend's pair of 28s, and got 74 at 4800, so got the rpm number dead on. I had bought a pair of 30s, and we put those on, and now I'm at 76, and still at 4800.
Another friend has a set of 5 blade 28s on his Donzi, so that might be the next experiment. He has more hp, but I think I'm close to him on the torque, so we'll see what happens.
The top speed didn't change much between the 28s and the 30s, but I did notice the speed at 4000 jumped up 5 mph!
Bob
When I bought the boat the previous owner Jeff was thinking the motors were putting out about 550 hp.
It had a pair of bravo 1 26s on it, and ran right at 72 at 5200 rpm. That was a bit more rpm than we wanted for those big motors, I was looking to get closer to 4800. (they are 582 cu. carb motors)
So, I put on a friend's pair of 28s, and got 74 at 4800, so got the rpm number dead on. I had bought a pair of 30s, and we put those on, and now I'm at 76, and still at 4800.
Another friend has a set of 5 blade 28s on his Donzi, so that might be the next experiment. He has more hp, but I think I'm close to him on the torque, so we'll see what happens.
The top speed didn't change much between the 28s and the 30s, but I did notice the speed at 4000 jumped up 5 mph!
Bob
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Well, I'll chime in as well since I'm playing with props as well.
When I bought the boat the previous owner Jeff was thinking the motors were putting out about 550 hp.
It had a pair of bravo 1 26s on it, and ran right at 72 at 5200 rpm. That was a bit more rpm than we wanted for those big motors, I was looking to get closer to 4800. (they are 582 cu. carb motors)
So, I put on a friend's pair of 28s, and got 74 at 4800, so got the rpm number dead on. I had bought a pair of 30s, and we put those on, and now I'm at 76, and still at 4800.
Another friend has a set of 5 blade 28s on his Donzi, so that might be the next experiment. He has more hp, but I think I'm close to him on the torque, so we'll see what happens.
The top speed didn't change much between the 28s and the 30s, but I did notice the speed at 4000 jumped up 5 mph!
Bob
When I bought the boat the previous owner Jeff was thinking the motors were putting out about 550 hp.
It had a pair of bravo 1 26s on it, and ran right at 72 at 5200 rpm. That was a bit more rpm than we wanted for those big motors, I was looking to get closer to 4800. (they are 582 cu. carb motors)
So, I put on a friend's pair of 28s, and got 74 at 4800, so got the rpm number dead on. I had bought a pair of 30s, and we put those on, and now I'm at 76, and still at 4800.
Another friend has a set of 5 blade 28s on his Donzi, so that might be the next experiment. He has more hp, but I think I'm close to him on the torque, so we'll see what happens.
The top speed didn't change much between the 28s and the 30s, but I did notice the speed at 4000 jumped up 5 mph!
Bob
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Hey there. Re-powering 90 cafe with engines showing a little over 700 HP/FP on the dyno undressed with 5" open pipes. Going to be running dry Gil this year so I expect some loss in power. Previous best speed on GPS was 65 (full fuel, 3 adults and gear, light chop freshwater) at 5100 with 509s turning Hydromotive 22s wtth 1.5 B1s. I don't know what power those were putting out because one was hurting (it gave up the ghost soon after) and I could never get it to peak HP (builder said 5600). Called one prop manufacturer for advice and he couldn't make any suggestions without knowing what I had been running before (and I have no idea since I never had that power on a dyno).
SKramer has been very kind to lend me some 25s to get a baseline but I would appreciate any thoughts on whay anyone with a similar power setup is running and what speeds your are seeing (don't worry about commenting on the drives - I know, I know).
Thanks!
Dave
SKramer has been very kind to lend me some 25s to get a baseline but I would appreciate any thoughts on whay anyone with a similar power setup is running and what speeds your are seeing (don't worry about commenting on the drives - I know, I know).
Thanks!
Dave
Good Luck.
Chad
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Bob do you know what rpm those motors make peak hp? I am guessing 4800 rpms is still a little light. I am not sure whats most important to you but with the peak hp rpm number you can get more speed by running a bigger prop and have it labbed finished to the right rpm. I am running a labbed 26p Bravo 1 with about 560 hp, running those motors at 5150-5200 I saw 78.9mph on gps. The props are back at BBlades to get another 150-200rpms to try to get me to cross the 80 barrier. I have seen unbelievable gains from the right prop combo. Good luck and keep us posted, that thing must be a torque monster!
I'm going to try the 5 blade props, and that same friend has another set of 5 blade Herrings with the defuser trimmed off that I can try as well. So, we'll see what those do this weekend and down the road I may ping Brett about doing some work on the ones I finally settle with.
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Unfortunately no, I have no true dyno info, just having to go with estimates from the builder with different heads and exhaust. But he did say that torque was their real forte. I'm like you, I would think a little higher is where they would peak out, but there is a lot of mass moving around in there, and I would rather have them last a little longer at the expense of a little top end.
I'm going to try the 5 blade props, and that same friend has another set of 5 blade Herrings with the defuser trimmed off that I can try as well. So, we'll see what those do this weekend and down the road I may ping Brett about doing some work on the ones I finally settle with.
I'm going to try the 5 blade props, and that same friend has another set of 5 blade Herrings with the defuser trimmed off that I can try as well. So, we'll see what those do this weekend and down the road I may ping Brett about doing some work on the ones I finally settle with.