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05-20-2010, 07:28 PM
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I've got $100,000.00 into mine. And that doesn't include what I paid for the boat. It's an 87, but will be brand new more or less. Still less than buying brand new.........that's what I tell myself to make me feel better about all of the money I'm spending, especially in this economic climate.
05-20-2010, 08:47 PM
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Buy one done, not worth restoring one. You can't take short cuts with cigarettes, or else they will show it and nobody will want the boat. you will have to restore it to cigarette level or better. Best to pay a little more upfront, turn the key and ENJOY! 
05-20-2010, 10:50 PM
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Think about what you want out of the boat that you want how long you plan to keep it and so on... restoring a 35 if you do it buy one half dead and shot may be gutted to save a buck on step #1..
step #1 brake down
crow bar and hammer work 5K if there is no power and drives with engins and drives 6 may be 7K do not skimp here you will pay later
Now your gutted and worth less stop now and u pay $10 a foot to dump it + a ride to the dump..
step 2 body work and body and "mod".. say 1978 a beat old 35 cigarette boat no "mods" 5K for you glass, puddy, core and 5k labor, to make sure the only waves are under you boat and not on it.. 3k more if you need cabin refit...
now your in primer and can take a loss if you want out say 5 k for you boat I say I'll give you 2K...
step 3 !!paint!! $150 a day 4 weeks in the both lets say 4 colors.. hull color black. cockpit & cabin vestal white, deck matterhorn white, griptex whisper white. labor 25k I'll do it like new
she shine's and is not worth your yard bill
step 4 refit... lets say you had good engine and drives & controles 3k to 5k to put them back in...
your panel is good but old ur boat is new so 3k wire and panel and 3k install no gen ad 15k for 110v 5k for a/c fridge and so on
8k to 15k in seating
and in like a day or two your ready for the water, but that guy sold out and the props not done and 6 months later you can think about if it was all worth it or about how one or more guys screwed you on the way but then you open her up and leave all that B/S behind you,,& hope fully it not a cloud of blue smoke behind you from that old engine...
pay some one to do it all and unless you have 100K you will quit and the yard will sell your boat..
do it all your self and you'll just be looking at a $25k yard bill and 30k in stuff & o ya a year of you life . hope you can sow.. or add 10k it's ok ur in deep now
add 10 to 20 k and u got it
step #1 brake down
crow bar and hammer work 5K if there is no power and drives with engins and drives 6 may be 7K do not skimp here you will pay later
Now your gutted and worth less stop now and u pay $10 a foot to dump it + a ride to the dump..
step 2 body work and body and "mod".. say 1978 a beat old 35 cigarette boat no "mods" 5K for you glass, puddy, core and 5k labor, to make sure the only waves are under you boat and not on it.. 3k more if you need cabin refit...
now your in primer and can take a loss if you want out say 5 k for you boat I say I'll give you 2K...
step 3 !!paint!! $150 a day 4 weeks in the both lets say 4 colors.. hull color black. cockpit & cabin vestal white, deck matterhorn white, griptex whisper white. labor 25k I'll do it like new
she shine's and is not worth your yard bill
step 4 refit... lets say you had good engine and drives & controles 3k to 5k to put them back in...
your panel is good but old ur boat is new so 3k wire and panel and 3k install no gen ad 15k for 110v 5k for a/c fridge and so on
8k to 15k in seating
and in like a day or two your ready for the water, but that guy sold out and the props not done and 6 months later you can think about if it was all worth it or about how one or more guys screwed you on the way but then you open her up and leave all that B/S behind you,,& hope fully it not a cloud of blue smoke behind you from that old engine...
pay some one to do it all and unless you have 100K you will quit and the yard will sell your boat..
do it all your self and you'll just be looking at a $25k yard bill and 30k in stuff & o ya a year of you life . hope you can sow.. or add 10k it's ok ur in deep now
add 10 to 20 k and u got it
05-21-2010, 02:00 AM
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05-21-2010, 06:15 AM
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Think about what you want out of the boat that you want how long you plan to keep it and so on... restoring a 35 if you do it buy one half dead and shot may be gutted to save a buck on step #1..
step #1 brake down
crow bar and hammer work 5K if there is no power and drives with engins and drives 6 may be 7K do not skimp here you will pay later
Now your gutted and worth less stop now and u pay $10 a foot to dump it + a ride to the dump..
step 2 body work and body and "mod".. say 1978 a beat old 35 cigarette boat no "mods" 5K for you glass, puddy, core and 5k labor, to make sure the only waves are under you boat and not on it.. 3k more if you need cabin refit...
now your in primer and can take a loss if you want out say 5 k for you boat I say I'll give you 2K...
step 3 !!paint!! $150 a day 4 weeks in the both lets say 4 colors.. hull color black. cockpit & cabin vestal white, deck matterhorn white, griptex whisper white. labor 25k I'll do it like new
she shine's and is not worth your yard bill
step 4 refit... lets say you had good engine and drives & controles 3k to 5k to put them back in...
your panel is good but old ur boat is new so 3k wire and panel and 3k install no gen ad 15k for 110v 5k for a/c fridge and so on
8k to 15k in seating
and in like a day or two your ready for the water, but that guy sold out and the props not done and 6 months later you can think about if it was all worth it or about how one or more guys screwed you on the way but then you open her up and leave all that B/S behind you,,& hope fully it not a cloud of blue smoke behind you from that old engine...
pay some one to do it all and unless you have 100K you will quit and the yard will sell your boat..
do it all your self and you'll just be looking at a $25k yard bill and 30k in stuff & o ya a year of you life . hope you can sow.. or add 10k it's ok ur in deep now
add 10 to 20 k and u got it
step #1 brake down
crow bar and hammer work 5K if there is no power and drives with engins and drives 6 may be 7K do not skimp here you will pay later
Now your gutted and worth less stop now and u pay $10 a foot to dump it + a ride to the dump..
step 2 body work and body and "mod".. say 1978 a beat old 35 cigarette boat no "mods" 5K for you glass, puddy, core and 5k labor, to make sure the only waves are under you boat and not on it.. 3k more if you need cabin refit...
now your in primer and can take a loss if you want out say 5 k for you boat I say I'll give you 2K...
step 3 !!paint!! $150 a day 4 weeks in the both lets say 4 colors.. hull color black. cockpit & cabin vestal white, deck matterhorn white, griptex whisper white. labor 25k I'll do it like new
she shine's and is not worth your yard bill
step 4 refit... lets say you had good engine and drives & controles 3k to 5k to put them back in...
your panel is good but old ur boat is new so 3k wire and panel and 3k install no gen ad 15k for 110v 5k for a/c fridge and so on
8k to 15k in seating
and in like a day or two your ready for the water, but that guy sold out and the props not done and 6 months later you can think about if it was all worth it or about how one or more guys screwed you on the way but then you open her up and leave all that B/S behind you,,& hope fully it not a cloud of blue smoke behind you from that old engine...
pay some one to do it all and unless you have 100K you will quit and the yard will sell your boat..
do it all your self and you'll just be looking at a $25k yard bill and 30k in stuff & o ya a year of you life . hope you can sow.. or add 10k it's ok ur in deep now
add 10 to 20 k and u got it
But I think he was saying the same thing - buy one done.
05-21-2010, 06:57 AM
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I have rebuilt alot of boats in my life and unless you are a person that really enjoys projects and you have a family that can enjoy the projects with you and have the patience, money,experiance and time I would say go for it!
BUT if you have never taken on a project like this, I would suggest buying a boat that has been completed, because right now you can buy boats cheap. I would look for someones misfortune, where they have put a ton of money into a boat and need quick cash! or go new!
JR
BUT if you have never taken on a project like this, I would suggest buying a boat that has been completed, because right now you can buy boats cheap. I would look for someones misfortune, where they have put a ton of money into a boat and need quick cash! or go new!
JR
05-21-2010, 09:05 AM
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