Weight increase in 80's Cigs

[deepv29]

I have been looking at early 80's Cigs to purchase. I located a 1981 35 foot Mistress. NADA has the weight at 7000lbs and just about 5 years later the weight jumps to 8000lbs. Same length and beam of 8 feet.

NADA also has the 1986 35 foot Cafe Racer at 8000lbs. Are these accurate dry weights? And why is there such an increase from the 35 Mistress to the Cafe Racer?

Were the early Cigs using Kevlar? It seems more modern materials would decrease the dry weight.

I was able to demo the 1981. It carved as if it were on rails in the water. Very impressive! No speedometer and I doubt we hit 55 mph with twin stock 454's.

[tcelano]

Ha. Maybe 8000 lb with no engines.

I think they come in more like 10,000 rigged and near 11,500 full of gas. I checked mine against a hydrostatic model, and it is right at 12k full of gas, but I have extra weight of blowers, extension boxes, big external steering & wing plates, big trim tabs, more fuel, and a big engine hatch. I have been meaning to run it across the scales to confirm, but haven't gotten to it yet.

+1 on the ride. If you've never run in one of these, find someone who has one and buy them an afternoon's worth of gas. You won't be disappointed. I've never run another boat that will carve turns like a jet ski. Downside is they need lots of power. Upside is you can nowadays make the kind of power easily and reliably that only the racers could keep together.

[Full Force]

mine runs 63 with approximately 470 HP...

ride.... amazing...

I have not weighed it yet..but she's for sure more then 9500 rigged and fuel.. that would be light I think..

[deepv29]

That sounds more reasonable. But even if the displacement data from NADA and Yachtworld is incomplete, there is definately a weight increase as time went on in the early 80's. I have read several posts about the use of Kevlar in Scarabs. Did Cigarette use the lighter material in the very early 80's?

The boat I looked at had a beautiful teak interior and helm/deck area. And the handling.........smoked my last boat!

[seafordguy]

I have a brochure from CIG that says the Cafe was 9600 dry. The mistress weighed at least that much.

Don't even look at NADA for anything. There are some kevlar models but the weight difference isn't much.

[deepv29]

Thanks. That's good info. Does anyone know of a website with older Cigarette specifications or brochure info?

Any thoughts on the Mistress vs the Cafe Racer? Other than the cosmetics and curves of the CR, any major improvements, advantages, disadvantages?

I was looking at 80's Scarabs but since I took a ride in the Cig.....Wow!

[seafordguy]

I can honestly say the post 1990 cabin in the Cafe's are about as good of a go-fast layout as you can find.

When you put the Mistress & the Cafe side by side the Cafe's really do look like a more modern boat.

Make sure you have plenty of truck - you can easily find yourself tugging around 14-15k lbs.....

[Hollowpoint]

Here are the 1988 Brochure for the Cafe. I believe them to be slightly low. Rigged boat empty and no fuel about 9500 lbs. Loaded up, probably closer to 11,500.

[Full Force]

The mistress is heavier then the Cafe, the cafe's are great looking 80's boats! you can update them easily...