Pros and Cons (Bullet vs Cafe)
03-19-2013, 04:00 PM
#21
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Cage Manager at a Poker room that's based at a horse track here in FL.
So pretty much watch people gamble away thousands a day and some times hundreds of thousands depending the crowd. I just make just make sure it's all here, accounted for, and paperwork if needed is filled out entirely and correctly.
So pretty much watch people gamble away thousands a day and some times hundreds of thousands depending the crowd. I just make just make sure it's all here, accounted for, and paperwork if needed is filled out entirely and correctly.
03-19-2013, 07:49 PM
#22
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My opinion: Unless you are going 10/10ths, all out throttles to the stops in 3 foot seas, I think the ride is comparable. Of course, the Cafe's extra 4 feet does mean a slightly better ride. The Cafe will probably be 1-2mph slower, but still close.
I have 468ci and blowers on mine and am good for low 70's. Do a search on this site for Cafe and Bullet speeds. It's been discussed before. I have collected data over the years from various Bullet owners. I Do NOT claim these are accurate, just what I was given. All of these are for Bullets only.
Me: About 550hp - 72-73mph. I can get more speed with more testing.
420's with upgrades - estimated 475hp = 67mph
502's with 420 mega blowers - estimated 650hp = Low 80's
598ci with 765hp = 84+ mph
Merc 575's = 86mph
Upgrades 502's - estimated 540hp = 72mph
Merc HP500's = 70mph
I do NOT claim these as accurate (except mine)
I would say that HP500's rigged and propped right should get you 70+ with bravo drives
If you want turn-key no headaches and faster than 70, I would look for a boat with Merc 525's or 575's. Both of those should be very reliable, even with the blowers. However, it will be hard to find that engine combo in an older Cafe or Bullet. There are many here in the Cig forum with vast amounts of experience that can help you when you are ready (I don't consider myself one of those).
I have 468ci and blowers on mine and am good for low 70's. Do a search on this site for Cafe and Bullet speeds. It's been discussed before. I have collected data over the years from various Bullet owners. I Do NOT claim these are accurate, just what I was given. All of these are for Bullets only.
Me: About 550hp - 72-73mph. I can get more speed with more testing.
420's with upgrades - estimated 475hp = 67mph
502's with 420 mega blowers - estimated 650hp = Low 80's
598ci with 765hp = 84+ mph
Merc 575's = 86mph
Upgrades 502's - estimated 540hp = 72mph
Merc HP500's = 70mph
I do NOT claim these as accurate (except mine)
I would say that HP500's rigged and propped right should get you 70+ with bravo drives
If you want turn-key no headaches and faster than 70, I would look for a boat with Merc 525's or 575's. Both of those should be very reliable, even with the blowers. However, it will be hard to find that engine combo in an older Cafe or Bullet. There are many here in the Cig forum with vast amounts of experience that can help you when you are ready (I don't consider myself one of those).
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...highlight=cafe
I never added mine to the table as it "was't right" during my first summer last year. HP500s w/ Bravos. N-2 owner said it would do 73 all day. N-1 owner had the engines redone with the wrong cams, mismatched dual plane intakes and leaky CMIs. With that, best I saw was 69.8 GPS. Motors have just been redone (est 525 HP), so I'm hoping to post a better number this spring!
Last edited by 242LS; 03-19-2013 at 07:50 PM. Reason: typo
03-20-2013, 12:33 PM
#26
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first get a bigger tow rig!
went back and forth between the two my self. ended up with a bullet. love the lines of a cafe. but wanted to be a bit diffrent and the bullet was more in my price range. now doing the rebuild i am sure i could have had a nice cafe for the same money lol.
on the test drive it did around 80 with 540s 600-650hp. pull it with a f250 and you know its there.
went back and forth between the two my self. ended up with a bullet. love the lines of a cafe. but wanted to be a bit diffrent and the bullet was more in my price range. now doing the rebuild i am sure i could have had a nice cafe for the same money lol.
on the test drive it did around 80 with 540s 600-650hp. pull it with a f250 and you know its there.
