CIG3

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Someone needs to get ahold of Gil Lieber. This was his old pleasure boat. He raced a 36' back in the day called FreeSpirit. Staggard set up.

Rhythm and Blues

Great pic! As the story goes on this one Keith Eikert use to own it; did Keith ever race or just build engines?

CIG3

I don't believe Keith ever raced. I do know Keith and Gil are great friends and Keith (KS&W) built Gil's engines back in the day.

SkaterMike82

When Sal & Willy owned it...Awesome motors and MANY race boat in those days were racing these motors and winning lots of races.

Ironmanwb

If I bought it, it would go straight to Bruce Jones and get cut apart and rebuilt. I just think I will get into way more with this than I want.

How hard would it be to convert it to a staggered set up? If it needs a transom anyway would it be that much more work to make it staggered? Bruce would make an entire new cockpit with a liner and new dash pods I would think that to make it a staggered set up wouldn't be that much more.......

Insert burning money emoji.

Rhythm and Blues

Staggerd setup=better exit/entry in and out of the water; correct? Or just better weight distribution in general?

bck

I sent Gil the pics. I'll let you know if he has anything to say.

Ironmanwb

Yes to all. Props are deeper even with the same x dimension as side by side. Better in the rough, faster . But it takes up quite a bit more space and I'm not sure what would happen to center of gravity going from side by side to staggered.

The bottom line is I want to build one the way I want it but I don't want to spend the money it will take....Bruce is a good friend of mine but even with a friends and family discount it would be stupid money.

Rhythm and Blues

Understood, I'm a marine engineer so I speak that language. Id ventute to say that w inboard turning drives and them closer together the thrust is concentrated a little better too, hence like you said, "faster".. Might be a slightly slower roll time too with the power lower, maybe less prone to radical chinewalk..

Ironmanwb

I took one ride in 36 widebody that was fully staggered and have been hooked ever since. Not fast but we were running 60 in true 5-6 ft Lake Erie water and the only thing the boat needed was more power.