What happened to all the TIN boats??
09-24-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: What happened to all the TIN boats??
Originally Posted by Ryan Beckley
Huh...really, I never knew that.
You cant teach an old dog new tricks..........But you can learn new tricks from an old dog..........m.m.......
09-27-2006, 11:20 AM
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Re: What happened to all the TIN boats??
Originally Posted by Chatim Racing
Found another "tin" boat...
1982 Cowes
1982 Cowes
He was the winner beating Toleman and Copeland.
This CUV 38 was the sister boat of Alitalia Uno that won in Mar Del Plata in 1978. It was builted by CUV in 1977 for Guido Niccolai and named Alitalia Due number 39.
Niccolai then renamed it Dry Martini in the 1978-80 season where he was placed second in the World Championships in Venice in 1979.
In 1981 the rookie Renato Della Valle bought it from Niccolai.
09-28-2006, 04:51 PM
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Re: What happened to all the TIN boats??
About others tin boats,two from Picchiotti shipyards of Viareggio in 1981 drove by the florentians bank manager Guido Niccolai.
They was the last Dry Martini.
35' at Viareggio-Bastia(shortened to Gorgona because the rough sea)-Viareggio in july 1981. Throttleman Jack Stuteville.
(anyone can say me how contact him?)
The new 38' that won the VBV edition under tornado's storm in 1982 with Cesare Fiorio.
They was the last Dry Martini.
35' at Viareggio-Bastia(shortened to Gorgona because the rough sea)-Viareggio in july 1981. Throttleman Jack Stuteville.
(anyone can say me how contact him?)
The new 38' that won the VBV edition under tornado's storm in 1982 with Cesare Fiorio.
09-28-2006, 05:14 PM
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Re: What happened to all the TIN boats??
One tin boat with the most original propulsion system come in the 1972-75 from the Italian idrojet factory Castoldi.
The owner,Franco Castoldi,ordered a 37' sister boat of the famous Shead's Unowot(former 1971 Sopwith's Enfield Avenger) to the Enfield shipyards and run some races in 1972-75 powered with a classic couple of MerCruiser but with the hydrojet on the stern. Castoldi Jet won only a race in San Remo but it was a very interesting idea.
The owner,Franco Castoldi,ordered a 37' sister boat of the famous Shead's Unowot(former 1971 Sopwith's Enfield Avenger) to the Enfield shipyards and run some races in 1972-75 powered with a classic couple of MerCruiser but with the hydrojet on the stern. Castoldi Jet won only a race in San Remo but it was a very interesting idea.
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10-04-2006, 04:50 PM
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Re: What happened to all the TIN boats??
Originally Posted by el indio
originally bought by Ben Kramer Apache................then sold to charlie and ike...............no forked tongue here..........anyone ever hear this before?????????????
Charlie Marks' Eric's Reality was originally ordered by Ben Kramer before he went to "camp". By the time it was delivered, Ben was ............ Inoperative?....Indisposed?
...ah yes....Incarcerated...that's the word
.Spirit of the Amazon was created a few years later...and Ben wasn't ordering anything but books from the prison library by then.
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10-05-2006, 03:41 AM
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Re: What happened to all the TIN boats??
Originally Posted by T2x
You're probably half right..........
Charlie Marks' Eric's Reality was originally ordered by Ben Kramer before he went to "camp". By the time it was delivered, Ben was ............ Inoperative?....Indisposed?
...ah yes....Incarcerated...that's the word .
Spirit of the Amazon was created a few years later...and Ben wasn't ordering anything but books from the prison library by then.
T2x
Charlie Marks' Eric's Reality was originally ordered by Ben Kramer before he went to "camp". By the time it was delivered, Ben was ............ Inoperative?....Indisposed?
...ah yes....Incarcerated...that's the word
.Spirit of the Amazon was created a few years later...and Ben wasn't ordering anything but books from the prison library by then.
T2x
10-05-2006, 07:08 AM
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Re: What happened to all the TIN boats??
Jack Kramer told me the story on Eric's Reality before its first race, which, if memory serves me right, was at Atlantic City. He made a point of showing me the canopies which he attributed to Ben...They were from a "Jump Jet" (British Harrier) rather than from F-16's as were most of the others at that time....and since. The Harrier's were steeper and according to Jack offered better visibility and a built in aluminum frame........
The canopy on Spirit of the Amazon was a Lavin type which was not created until well after Ben was gone.......
One other thing, I remember talking to Bobby Moore, who had rigged most of the 4 engine Superboats at that time and wondering if those boats would discourage racers with a slightly lesser budget, but a "top dog" ego from racing at all in Open Class........ As it turns out the 4 engine boats did drive out some of the other guys for a while.....until Peter's 46 Skater began running almost as fast with 2 motors...... as with 4....... sometimes faster.
T2x
The canopy on Spirit of the Amazon was a Lavin type which was not created until well after Ben was gone.......
One other thing, I remember talking to Bobby Moore, who had rigged most of the 4 engine Superboats at that time and wondering if those boats would discourage racers with a slightly lesser budget, but a "top dog" ego from racing at all in Open Class........ As it turns out the 4 engine boats did drive out some of the other guys for a while.....until Peter's 46 Skater began running almost as fast with 2 motors...... as with 4....... sometimes faster.
T2x
