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08-21-2008, 11:39 AM
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4 BOATS KILLED :)
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Why did I never hear any of this?
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08-21-2008, 11:41 AM
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Was George by any chance Jean Claude Simon at any time?
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08-21-2008, 12:30 PM
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Was George by any chance Jean Claude Simon at any time?
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No but he was Pope Thaddeus the 12th.
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08-21-2008, 12:43 PM
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When he was inventing the planing hull in England, he was Lord Lindsay. They mixed his name up when he came over here.
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08-21-2008, 12:44 PM
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great info... What are the main differences with the challenger 21 compared to other v's of its size? I.e. a velocity 22 as has similar lines, pad bottom etc.
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08-21-2008, 01:00 PM
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great info... What are the main differences with the challenger 21 compared to other v's of its size? I.e. a velocity 22 as has similar lines, pad bottom etc.
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I urge anyone who is interested to drive them both. The Velocity (not a bad boat) has much more constant section in the bottom, and a flatter, wider pad.... The ride difference is significant as a result. The "Non constant vee" in the Challenger has large compund curves on the dihedral as you go forward......
The styling differences between the two speak for themselves. The deck and sides on the Challenger also have a lot of compound curves (one of the most difficult and expensive things to translate into a wooden plug back in the day.....and one of the key things that makes Skaters different from the slabs of flat surfaces that typify the California Cats and stretched "pops"). The truth is many designers today do not know how to join the surfaces when they "cut and paste" from someone else's original designs.
Key hint.....When you see long flat surfaces on decks, hulls, and bottoms....you are probably looking at crap.
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08-21-2008, 01:58 PM
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It raced under the name "Recovery" and was Stu Hayim's second race boat, after his Chris Cat. Stu would later go on to many World and National championships with various Skaters along with his throttleman, crew chief, Joe Imprescia....T2x
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Is this the one? Always thought it was a Jag.
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08-21-2008, 02:09 PM
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That IS a JAG , not the Conquest.
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08-21-2008, 04:49 PM
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Is this the one? Always thought it was a Jag.
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No, that boat, a Jaguar, was built 4 years later.
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08-21-2008, 05:18 PM
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T2x do you have a picture of the boat you built for stu?
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