Some old photos

[littlenige]

What the americans need is a platform for putting their shots online collectively. HORBA have done a tremendous job in doing that so far, but what about all those amateur shots out there? The Boatmad site is fantastic for having the 'library' section, where all and sundry can go and browse through 100's of pics in one location. It just takes a huge amount of time to put it all together.

I thought I had a lot of photo's until I saw Graham's library!

[pete60]

Originally Posted by priceb

I had heard American Eagle had been burned and destroyed in a fire.

Also, I heard the other day that Arnold Glass now lives in Monte Carlo racing aeroplanes. He is now about 80 y.o. and still going well

Priceb, you might be thinking of Stefan Shampoo, which was a new ( then) 36 built by Riviera using a mould off American Eagle. That Riv built boat burnt in New Zealand.

[priceb]

Pete, I will re ask the guy who told me again. If Riviera flop moulded American Eagle, did they make any others or just the one boat for stefan?

[7xchamp]

Originally Posted by priceb

Pete, I will re ask the guy who told me again. If Riviera flop moulded American Eagle, did they make any others or just the one boat for stefan?

The boat you are talking about ( I think ) is the boat that Tom and I raced in Australia, we went down to qualify for the worlds, We raced the Mercury Trophy race in Port Saint Philip bay in Melbourne. One of the coldest roughest races I have ever run, seas in the bay were 8 to 12 ft. wind blowing 40 mph, took us almost 4 hours to go 80 miles, that`s the race where the 44` Longshot???????? Peter Deans old boat, stuffed and broke in half. We sold that boat to a boat Mfg. named John Haines, he built Haines Hunter powerboats. The boat we sold had bottom damage from the race, and was in pretty bad shape, and Tom gave Okay to copy and build boats from. This particular boat was not a Cigarette, it was Toms own design built by ( I think) Rudy Ramos of Rayson Craft boats. Tom built a very big flat pad on the keel, which did`nt work, until we attached an alum. V to make it more like a Cigarette Bottom. The famous 35` Cig American Eagle that I built and won the UIM worlds in 1976 is supposedly in Panama as a Panama Hawk. I did hear that Haines Hunter boat co. did have a fire, and is possible those molds were lost.

[Black Tornado]

Hi Richie,
if I don't remember wrong in a thread some time ago you had spoken of a Cig 35' former Conspiracy-Mighty Mouse that Gentry and you brought in Australia to dispute some competition.

[7xchamp]

Originally Posted by Black Tornado

Hi Richie,
if I don't remember wrong in a thread some time ago you had spoken of a Cig 35' former Conspiracy-Mighty Mouse that Gentry and you brought in Australia to dispute some competition.

Hi Marco: Yes it was the original Allen Alweis sr. 35` Cig named Conspiracy, rigged and throttled by Stuteville, was later sold to Joe Weishelbaum, and named Mighty Mouse. Tom bought it to attend and qualify for UIM worlds in Australia. We ran the first race in Sydney, broke a u-joint at the start which broke the gimble, and forced us out of the race, allmost sunk. We stayed in Australia and New Zealand with intentions of running the other two races, unfortunatly Tom was going through marital problems with then wife Nora, and never showed up for the races. The boat was sent to Calif. shop, then to Hawaii, as a test boat for Tom, Last I saw the boat was in Calif. still same colors etc. I think Billy Dunsmoore is taking care of it. There was pictures etc. on previous threads, just not sure where, I wrote a lot about the cig`s. in those threads.

[pete60]

Originally Posted by 7xchamp

The boat you are talking about ( I think ) is the boat that Tom and I raced in Australia, we went down to qualify for the worlds, We raced the Mercury Trophy race in Port Saint Philip bay in Melbourne. One of the coldest roughest races I have ever run, seas in the bay were 8 to 12 ft. wind blowing 40 mph, took us almost 4 hours to go 80 miles, that`s the race where the 44` Longshot???????? Peter Deans old boat, stuffed and broke in half. We sold that boat to a boat Mfg. named John Haines, he built Haines Hunter powerboats. The boat we sold had bottom damage from the race, and was in pretty bad shape, and Tom gave Okay to copy and build boats from. This particular boat was not a Cigarette, it was Toms own design built by ( I think) Rudy Ramos of Rayson Craft boats. Tom built a very big flat pad on the keel, which did`nt work, until we attached an alum. V to make it more like a Cigarette Bottom. The famous 35` Cig American Eagle that I built and won the UIM worlds in 1976 is supposedly in Panama as a Panama Hawk. I did hear that Haines Hunter boat co. did have a fire, and is possible those molds were lost.

7xchamp, this is a different boat to the candy strriped American Eagle. The race you mention was in 1978, and the ex Dean boat was a lightweight 39 special. The boat Tom Gentry ran was sold to John Haines but was destroyed in a race later that year. Haines did take a mould off it and produced a 38ft race boat a few years later under the Signature brand. John HIanes left Haines Hunter in 1980 and after sitting out his restraint started Signature boats which he still owns today. I remember that Gentry one off boat well...it was a plum colour with tapered topsides near the stern.

Priceb, the Stefan Riviera boat was built in about 1987 or so to replace the by now ageing ex American Eagle. Riviera also built a 36 for Bill Barry Cotter to run ( Bill's first offshore race boat) in about 1989.

[T2x]

Originally Posted by aex

Just found these . That's American Dream and the last one I think became Starchaser out of Long Island .

The American Dream Shadow Cat originally was "El Boss".

T2x

[aex]

How about these from boatdesign.net

[aex]

And these .