Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > Drives and Lower Units
Cyro and Rem Finishing >

Cyro and Rem Finishing

Notices

Cyro and Rem Finishing

Thread Tools
 
Old 03-21-2017, 04:49 PM
  #1  
Gold Member
Gold Member
Thread Starter
 
srl520's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Las Vegas Nevada
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Cyro and Rem Finishing

I have been researching this and wondering if it is cost effective in the gears of an XR. What are your experiences? I'm running 525's/XR's behind a Black Thunder. I know these drives are the weak link on this boat. I have gotten 250 hrs on the SB drive with out touching it. The P drive was apart last yr for a clutch problem at 170hrs. Gears showed some wear and we decided to turn them around. I got another 80hrs out of them and now I broke a gear. Wondering if it is going to be cost effective to look in to having the Cyro/Rem Finishing done.
srl520 is offline  
Old 03-21-2017, 07:07 PM
  #2  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Biggus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Naples, Maine
Posts: 6,304
Received 31 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

I used that process for a few years, probably 6 sets of gears and finally gave up. I feel the gears are really hit or miss, either you get a set that lasts or one's that start pitting within 20 hrs or so.
Biggus is offline  
Old 03-22-2017, 01:18 AM
  #3  
Charter Member # 55
Charter Member
 
Griff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Omaha/LOTO
Posts: 19,555
Received 1,815 Likes on 903 Posts
Default

I do not think you will get any more hours out of XR gears than you are already getting no matter what you do to them.
Griff is offline  
Old 03-22-2017, 07:25 AM
  #4  
VIP Member
VIP Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Quinlan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Tulsa, GLOC
Posts: 4,086
Received 591 Likes on 271 Posts
Default

Get a spare drive
Quinlan is offline  
Old 03-23-2017, 03:42 PM
  #5  
Gold Member
Gold Member
Thread Starter
 
srl520's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Las Vegas Nevada
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ya, I'm thinking the same thing. I thinking SCX is going to be the way to go.
srl520 is offline  
Old 03-24-2017, 08:52 AM
  #6  
VIP Member
VIP Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Quinlan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Tulsa, GLOC
Posts: 4,086
Received 591 Likes on 271 Posts
Default

[ATTACH=CONFIG]565824[/ATTACH]

If its is an option Do SCXs
Attached Thumbnails Cyro and Rem Finishing-img_3247.jpg  
Quinlan is offline  
Old 04-21-2017, 02:11 PM
  #7  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Chesterfield Twp., MI
Posts: 134
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Cryo and REM approach the problem from two different angles.

The purpose of cryo treatment is to convert austenite retained within the microstructure to martensite. Tempered martensite is most often the desired microstructure for surfaces such as gears. This retained austenite can be the initiation site for subsurface contact fatigue cracks. Converting the retained austenite can make the parts more robust to contact fatigue, but only if there is retained martensite in the microstructure. It's hit or miss.

REM treatment reduces the contact stress by smoothing the surfaces and reducing sliding friction. If there is a sliding component in the gear mesh (most gears have this), then you may see a benefit, but only if the surfaces are a finer surface finish than what they would be after break-in.

From others reports it sounds like it works for some, but not enough to be certain it's worth the money.
NautiSouth is offline  
Old 04-21-2017, 02:48 PM
  #8  
253
Gold Member
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Southern, IL.
Posts: 700
Received 26 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Several expert rebuilders have told me they do not see any longer life on XR gears using /CRYO or REM.
253 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.