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Old 05-02-2005, 12:52 PM   #1
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Speed Formula 382 fastech

Hi!

How fast will a Formula 382 Fastech run with

2 x 525 HP engines
2 x 600 HP engines
2 x 650 HP engines

A 1998 model with 2 x 415 HP (502 engines) is for sale in Norway for an affordable price.

An engine builder in my hometown can easily rebuild those engines to 525 HP each without compressor.

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Old 05-02-2005, 05:40 PM   #2
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Re: Speed Formula 382 fastech

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I'll take a stab.

Assuming it is a loaded out boat (gen, full cabin, full fuel, couple of geeks on board) and it has Stellings boxes...with not much tweaking done.

525's = approx 79 MPH
600's = approx 83 MPH
650's = approx. 86 MPH

Give or take a MPH or two...

382's are heavy and need power to make them run.


Now are those speeds with, or without, donuts...
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Old 05-02-2005, 05:40 PM   #3
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I'll take a stab.

Assuming it is a loaded out boat (gen, full cabin, full fuel, couple of geeks on board) and it has Stellings boxes...with not much tweaking done.

525's = approx 79 MPH
600's = approx 83 MPH
650's = approx. 86 MPH

Give or take a MPH or two...

382's are heavy and need power to make them run.


Hi!

Thanks for swift answer.

The problem when buying a second hand Formula 382 Fastech from US is Norways import taxes...:

Fx price Formula 382 FT with twin 500 EFI's = USD 150.000,-
Engine tax = USD 20.000,-
Transport from US = USD 10.000,-
Value added tax 25% = USD 45.000,-
Sum = USD 225.000,-

USD 225.000 is equivalent to NOK 1.425.000,-

This sum often apply to a Formula 353 Fastech too...

This Formula 382 Fastech 1998 model is for sale for NOK 895.000,-. Typically NOK 850.000,- cash.

So you have some money to upgrade the engines locally...

Those taxes, those taxes...

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Old 05-03-2005, 06:49 AM   #4
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The donut factor is the "give or take a MPH or two"

Ahaaaaa, just what I suspected......
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Old 05-03-2005, 08:11 AM   #5
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MAN those taxes are killer. You could have an engine(s) dismantled, shipped in parts, and then reassembled for less than the $20,000.00 tax. Consider buying a bare hull and claiming it's worth 50k.....
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Hi!

Yes, there is a possibility to dismantle the engines and import them as carengines, not paying HP tax. And then buy a second hand hull with "display" price.

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Hi again,

How much horsepower can a Bravo One outdrive handle? 550 HP?

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Old 05-21-2005, 08:35 AM   #8
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Hi again,

How much horsepower can a Bravo One outdrive handle? 550 HP?

Cheeers, Toffen G
Toffen,

Depends on three things ... the weight of the boat, how hard you drive it, and how good you are pulling back on the throttles when you get air. I ran a Formula 311 with 645 H.P. motors for 4 years and never had a problem with standard Bravo 1's. The 382 with 645 H.P. will be much harder on the drives due to the extra #3000 lbs weight difference.
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