I am looking for a 303, 311 and or a 357
07-25-2012, 07:59 AM
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I currently have a 1990 formula 311
Bravo Drives
454 Mag Mpi's
On a Trailer
Hull Is Mint
Silent Thunder Swim Plat Form
I Had 454 Carb Engines In it
Blew One So I Decided To Buy 454 Mag MPI's
The Motors And Drives Are Out 100% Working Cond
Everything to Put It Back Together
Let Me Know If Your Interested
Bravo Drives
454 Mag Mpi's
On a Trailer
Hull Is Mint
Silent Thunder Swim Plat Form
I Had 454 Carb Engines In it
Blew One So I Decided To Buy 454 Mag MPI's
The Motors And Drives Are Out 100% Working Cond
Everything to Put It Back Together
Let Me Know If Your Interested
07-25-2012, 11:26 AM
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I HAVE A 311 IN CLASSIFIEDS...HP500S NEW IMCO STEERING REBUILT BRAVOS MINT INTERIOR
http://nh.craigslist.org/boa/3119627034.html
http://nh.craigslist.org/boa/3119627034.html
07-30-2012, 04:04 PM
#33
Ok, 311's
Great deal as long as it checks and sharp! but TRS.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/da...065658133.html
This could be the one maybe he'll negotiate or get close to 20,
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/boa/3158838077.html
really like that one.
Yes 303's are a tad smaller then the 311, but PWR VS PWR +10 mph depends on what ya want.... I wanted 70+mph
with that said the Denver 303 looks nice, and your not as far away as the rest of us, his location is killing him trying to sell I bet you could buy it good. also on OSO class there's a 303 here in Buffalo NY, he needs it gone... BUT for the money Artie's 303 is the nicest machine available
Great deal as long as it checks and sharp! but TRS.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/da...065658133.html
This could be the one maybe he'll negotiate or get close to 20,
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/boa/3158838077.html
really like that one.
Yes 303's are a tad smaller then the 311, but PWR VS PWR +10 mph depends on what ya want.... I wanted 70+mph
with that said the Denver 303 looks nice, and your not as far away as the rest of us, his location is killing him trying to sell I bet you could buy it good. also on OSO class there's a 303 here in Buffalo NY, he needs it gone... BUT for the money Artie's 303 is the nicest machine available
07-30-2012, 04:12 PM
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If this is 25k Might be able to get him down close to 20. Looks like a clean 303
http://denver.craigslist.org/boa/3157885783.html
http://denver.craigslist.org/boa/3157885783.html
07-30-2012, 05:32 PM
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I still say the 303 is small, plus no front hatches, it gets stuffy up front without em, my Cig don't have em above v berth... I use 2 fans to move air around...
07-30-2012, 08:04 PM
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I agree on the stufffy part i also use fans my 271 was same way. the 3030 is pretty versatile where the ndxt step up loses some of the things we like most enclosed head for me would be a storage locker
07-30-2012, 08:57 PM
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you can sink yourself real fast in a boat that just needs TLC, almost EVERY older boat will need stringer/transom/bulkhead work, just figure on it, I don't care what anyone tells you unless it's been done at least once, especially a Baja Formula stinger scarab they didn't seal them well when drilling holes and that invited water in...
engines will cost a ton unless you build em yourself and know what your doing... best survey is knowledge and a small hammer... and someone who can check out engines/drives
I made the mistake years ago withn a TLC boat, I ditched it after spending too much this year, bought a dry 35 Cigarette and am happier then ever that I don't need stringers/paint and such...
research and listen to what guys tell you, luckily I am my own mecahnic painter and such and it still costs a ton.. I could not imagine paying someone to do all my work..
engines will cost a ton unless you build em yourself and know what your doing... best survey is knowledge and a small hammer... and someone who can check out engines/drives
I made the mistake years ago withn a TLC boat, I ditched it after spending too much this year, bought a dry 35 Cigarette and am happier then ever that I don't need stringers/paint and such...
research and listen to what guys tell you, luckily I am my own mecahnic painter and such and it still costs a ton.. I could not imagine paying someone to do all my work..
07-30-2012, 09:30 PM
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Almosy ANY older boat will need work in the bulkheads and stringers if it was not completely indoor and trailer kept, or never got rained in or used at a beach, Cigs and Apaches seem to be sealed up in the rigging process WAY better then other brands of the era, there are also "friday" boats...
that being said, there are plenty of great hulls out there that were taken care of, I can tell normally from pictures of engines alone how the boatw as kept up...
if engines and bilge are drity or paint flaking off valve covers and such, WALK AWAY as I gaurantee it sat outside way too much...
As far as Formulas go, the bulkhead under step rots because the windshields leak and there is nowhere for water to go, the rear center stringers rot easy on them for some reason, and also the gas tank bulkhead.... transoms are hit or miss, depends how much stuff people removed and installed over the years, a leaky gimble or exhaust pipe will destory a transom easily as the holes were not sealed much if at all back then...
best survey is a guy who knows what to look for and give him a hammer to tap around...
expect stress cracks above the head in 311 and 357 formulas, very common and not a big deal, walk all over the deck also and make sure hatch windows didn't leak and rot that too...
personally I like TRS 311's over Bravo for the ride in big water, if you are inland lake it wont matter...
good luck!
that being said, there are plenty of great hulls out there that were taken care of, I can tell normally from pictures of engines alone how the boatw as kept up...
if engines and bilge are drity or paint flaking off valve covers and such, WALK AWAY as I gaurantee it sat outside way too much...
As far as Formulas go, the bulkhead under step rots because the windshields leak and there is nowhere for water to go, the rear center stringers rot easy on them for some reason, and also the gas tank bulkhead.... transoms are hit or miss, depends how much stuff people removed and installed over the years, a leaky gimble or exhaust pipe will destory a transom easily as the holes were not sealed much if at all back then...
best survey is a guy who knows what to look for and give him a hammer to tap around...
expect stress cracks above the head in 311 and 357 formulas, very common and not a big deal, walk all over the deck also and make sure hatch windows didn't leak and rot that too...
personally I like TRS 311's over Bravo for the ride in big water, if you are inland lake it wont matter...
good luck!
07-31-2012, 07:56 AM
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Almosy ANY older boat will need work in the bulkheads and stringers if it was not completely indoor and trailer kept, or never got rained in or used at a beach, Cigs and Apaches seem to be sealed up in the rigging process WAY better then other brands of the era, there are also "friday" boats...
that being said, there are plenty of great hulls out there that were taken care of, I can tell normally from pictures of engines alone how the boatw as kept up...
if engines and bilge are drity or paint flaking off valve covers and such, WALK AWAY as I gaurantee it sat outside way too much...
As far as Formulas go, the bulkhead under step rots because the windshields leak and there is nowhere for water to go, the rear center stringers rot easy on them for some reason, and also the gas tank bulkhead.... transoms are hit or miss, depends how much stuff people removed and installed over the years, a leaky gimble or exhaust pipe will destory a transom easily as the holes were not sealed much if at all back then...
best survey is a guy who knows what to look for and give him a hammer to tap around...
expect stress cracks above the head in 311 and 357 formulas, very common and not a big deal, walk all over the deck also and make sure hatch windows didn't leak and rot that too...
personally I like TRS 311's over Bravo for the ride in big water, if you are inland lake it wont matter...
good luck!
that being said, there are plenty of great hulls out there that were taken care of, I can tell normally from pictures of engines alone how the boatw as kept up...
if engines and bilge are drity or paint flaking off valve covers and such, WALK AWAY as I gaurantee it sat outside way too much...
As far as Formulas go, the bulkhead under step rots because the windshields leak and there is nowhere for water to go, the rear center stringers rot easy on them for some reason, and also the gas tank bulkhead.... transoms are hit or miss, depends how much stuff people removed and installed over the years, a leaky gimble or exhaust pipe will destory a transom easily as the holes were not sealed much if at all back then...
best survey is a guy who knows what to look for and give him a hammer to tap around...
expect stress cracks above the head in 311 and 357 formulas, very common and not a big deal, walk all over the deck also and make sure hatch windows didn't leak and rot that too...
personally I like TRS 311's over Bravo for the ride in big water, if you are inland lake it wont matter...
good luck!
