"the pipes over the transom? why"? becuase they were there when i bought it. i plan on installing new exhaust when i put in my 1000hp blower motors. but the drives are so high that fitting 5" tail thru the transum may be tuff so the new pipes so they may go over transum as well. i guess i could remove the internal tie bar when i try to fit the new exhaust. i plan on installing an electric winch in a few weeks that will sit a few inches higher and be a stright pull against the bow eye.