V-Hull vs. Cat Hull
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Re: V-Hull vs. Cat Hull
Originally Posted by expresscat39
To each his own.
Some like riding blondes, some like riding brunettes and some don't care what they are riding as long as they are riding. It's all good.
Some like riding blondes, some like riding brunettes and some don't care what they are riding as long as they are riding. It's all good.
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Re: V-Hull vs. Cat Hull
Originally Posted by Sean H
so many? i bet i can put up 5 vees for every cat you can come up with....
so are we talking racing or pleasure here? if we are talking race boats, i would say it is safe to say that there has been way more vee's get wet than cats over the years.... and pleasure, i know plenty of people who have been pitched by a vee, only a select few in a cat (and the cats were all races)...
have you been in a big cat in the rough? or are you just making assumptions by a few photos of upside down cats?
so are we talking racing or pleasure here? if we are talking race boats, i would say it is safe to say that there has been way more vee's get wet than cats over the years.... and pleasure, i know plenty of people who have been pitched by a vee, only a select few in a cat (and the cats were all races)...
have you been in a big cat in the rough? or are you just making assumptions by a few photos of upside down cats?
The truth of the matter is I don't even see cats on the water in NJ when it gets rough, but I see Apaches and Cigarettes.
I don't even see them running the rough water in the pics you posted. It looks like they are slowly plodding their way through the rough stuff. Rough water to me is 6 ft and up. The only boats I see handle that well are the 41 Apaches.
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Re: V-Hull vs. Cat Hull
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
The statement was if they are so fantastic, why are they upside down? If they are as good as you say then they should not be upside down.
The truth of the matter is I don't even see cats on the water in NJ when it gets rough, but I see Apaches and Cigarettes.
I don't even see them running the rough water in the pics you posted. It looks like they are slowly plodding their way through the rough stuff. Rough water to me is 6 ft and up. The only boats I see handle that well are the 41 Apaches.
The truth of the matter is I don't even see cats on the water in NJ when it gets rough, but I see Apaches and Cigarettes.
I don't even see them running the rough water in the pics you posted. It looks like they are slowly plodding their way through the rough stuff. Rough water to me is 6 ft and up. The only boats I see handle that well are the 41 Apaches.
Apaches are good boats. Very heavy lead sleds. In the Apache V class there is only one boat better thatn a 41 Apache, that is a 47. So, now your 41 is #2.
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Re: V-Hull vs. Cat Hull
Originally Posted by expresscat39
Apaches are good boats. Very heavy lead sleds. In the Apache V class there is only one boat better thatn a 41 Apache, that is a 47. So, now your 41 is #2.
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Re: V-Hull vs. Cat Hull
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
The statement was if they are so fantastic, why are they upside down? If they are as good as you say then they should not be upside down.
The truth of the matter is I don't even see cats on the water in NJ when it gets rough, but I see Apaches and Cigarettes.
I don't even see them running the rough water in the pics you posted. It looks like they are slowly plodding their way through the rough stuff. Rough water to me is 6 ft and up. The only boats I see handle that well are the 41 Apaches.
The truth of the matter is I don't even see cats on the water in NJ when it gets rough, but I see Apaches and Cigarettes.
I don't even see them running the rough water in the pics you posted. It looks like they are slowly plodding their way through the rough stuff. Rough water to me is 6 ft and up. The only boats I see handle that well are the 41 Apaches.
and as far as the pics go, yes those pics we were getting ready to start, so therefore, we weren't running yet, and when we are running, the cameras get put away so you can hang on... the only way to run in the rough in a cat is on top, and that means a lot of air time... the pics of me about 4' in the air was going through the shipping channel and there are others taken by the chopper on that run of big cats running in the big stuff (and yes on the way home from lunch it was 5-7')...
i will still assume that you have never ridden in your water in a big cat since you haven't answered that question, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't work, i think byrdman is buidling a 46 skater for atlantic city, i am positive he will run it in the rough stuff when he is done.
pic below is 42MTI in his flying MTI...
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Re: V-Hull vs. Cat Hull
Originally Posted by KRAZYKATZ
the only pure number i know is insurance quotes.
A 40ft cat and a 41 Apache with the same power and outdrives and the cat is more costly to insure. Why would that be true if the cat is superior? Safer? Why don't insurance companies feel this way by rewarding the cat owners with better rates?
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
Great Point!
A 40ft cat and a 41 Apache with the same power and outdrives and the cat is more costly to insure. Why would that be true if the cat is superior? Safer? Why don't insurance companies feel this way by rewarding the cat owners with better rates?
A 40ft cat and a 41 Apache with the same power and outdrives and the cat is more costly to insure. Why would that be true if the cat is superior? Safer? Why don't insurance companies feel this way by rewarding the cat owners with better rates?
so trying to use insurance rates to prove how a cat can or cannot handle the rough is pretty lame..
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Originally Posted by Sean H
race any boat hard enough and you will find its limitations, that is what racing is isn't it? are you telling me an apache has never been wet? i will agree that a big heavy vee in 6+ footers is a good choice, but its not the only choice... big cats can and will get the job done as well, that is my only point, never rule out a 40+ cat (and you don't see many of those anywhere you go really..) with a good team on the wheel and sticks...
and as far as the pics go, yes those pics we were getting ready to start, so therefore, we weren't running yet, and when we are running, the cameras get put away so you can hang on... the only way to run in the rough in a cat is on top, and that means a lot of air time... the pics of me about 4' in the air was going through the shipping channel and there are others taken by the chopper on that run of big cats running in the big stuff (and yes on the way home from lunch it was 5-7')...
i will still assume that you have never ridden in your water in a big cat since you haven't answered that question, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't work, i think byrdman is buidling a 46 skater for atlantic city, i am positive he will run it in the rough stuff when he is done.
pic below is 42MTI in his flying MTI...
and as far as the pics go, yes those pics we were getting ready to start, so therefore, we weren't running yet, and when we are running, the cameras get put away so you can hang on... the only way to run in the rough in a cat is on top, and that means a lot of air time... the pics of me about 4' in the air was going through the shipping channel and there are others taken by the chopper on that run of big cats running in the big stuff (and yes on the way home from lunch it was 5-7')...
i will still assume that you have never ridden in your water in a big cat since you haven't answered that question, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't work, i think byrdman is buidling a 46 skater for atlantic city, i am positive he will run it in the rough stuff when he is done.
pic below is 42MTI in his flying MTI...