I have been on lake george with that boat running around and been in Jacksonville PR more than a few times. I dont think it goes 178, I dont think those mills are making 1400hp on pump gas. Thats not a hack on Bill, thats just my opinion... I have been around that boat and was at Keith's shop when the motors were there. I dont think KE would tell you they are making 1400..... BigCat was running the same motors with PSI's and making 1200hp on pump and on the edge. Ah, the debate continues!!!