Open Ocean Racing
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Re: Open Ocean Racing
Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
but nascar does have classes..you make your car to the specs that nascar mandates no more than 750 hp, they provide the tires. if you want to run less hp you race busch.
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Even if they are a different class, at least they don't race them at the same time on the same track.
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Offshoredrillin my last post wasn't directed toward you just in general. You type faster than I do!
I agree I think in a perfect world Factory type racing is where it's at. Sealed engines with equal power and may the best man/machine win. I love Factory racing but this isn't about what I or we like. It's about what the general public will like and WATCH. I just don't think that you will get enough boats to compete with hp restrictions. At least not at first. Just my $.02.
I agree I think in a perfect world Factory type racing is where it's at. Sealed engines with equal power and may the best man/machine win. I love Factory racing but this isn't about what I or we like. It's about what the general public will like and WATCH. I just don't think that you will get enough boats to compete with hp restrictions. At least not at first. Just my $.02.
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Re: Open Ocean Racing
Originally Posted by noboat
And six boats in a 150 mile race isn't going to give the action needed! You will need a lot of boats and some GOOD DECK TO DECK racing, period.
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Re: Open Ocean Racing
Originally Posted by cuda
Well, obviously I meant Nextel Cup cars. 99% of fans of stock car racing equate Nascar with the Nextel Cup racing.
Even if they are a different class, at least they don't race them at the same time on the same track.
Even if they are a different class, at least they don't race them at the same time on the same track.
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Originally Posted by cuda
Have you watched that Apache Offshore video in the VIP section? I turned it on a bit ago, just to refresh my memory of it, and ended up watching the whole thing again.
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Re: Open Ocean Racing
Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
true but the limiting factor is the track.. the longest track is talladega at 2.5 miles (i think) the ocean is huge . I under stand what everyone is saying and there are good points to them all. however it is just my opinon that there has to be some sort of guideline for the race, wether it is broken down by hp, boat length whatever, there has to be something. If a stock 36 v hull was to go up against a 46 ft cat with big power, the only chance the v would have would be if the big cat broke.
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Originally Posted by noboat
Offshoredrillin my last post wasn't directed toward you just in general. You type faster than I do!
I agree I think in a perfect world Factory type racing is where it's at. Sealed engines with equal power and may the best man/machine win. I love Factory racing but this isn't about what I or we like. It's about what the general public will like and WATCH. I just don't think that you will get enough boats to compete with hp restrictions. At least not at first. Just my $.02.
I agree I think in a perfect world Factory type racing is where it's at. Sealed engines with equal power and may the best man/machine win. I love Factory racing but this isn't about what I or we like. It's about what the general public will like and WATCH. I just don't think that you will get enough boats to compete with hp restrictions. At least not at first. Just my $.02.
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The original post by T.B was in response to "WHY DOESN'T CIGARETTE RACE"......
His contention was/is that Cigarette and many other manufacturers would jump in if the format was true old style, man against the sea, hardcore, bad a$$ boats with tough guy crews.
Nothing posted to this point leads me to that same conclusion.
Most manufacturers don't bother with racing because they don't recognize a return on investment. [With the exception of Fountain and a few small, specialized builders].
Cigarette was involved in racing prior to Skip Braver's purchase of the company.
So my question is, did Mr. Bravers decision hurt Cigarette sales? I personally don't believe the production numbers will support that supposition.
How about Nortech??? Is their recent success due in any part to supporting racing?
Yes, old style racing is a romantic thought. But it lacks almost everything required to attract builders, sponsors, media and fans in todays world.
His contention was/is that Cigarette and many other manufacturers would jump in if the format was true old style, man against the sea, hardcore, bad a$$ boats with tough guy crews.
Nothing posted to this point leads me to that same conclusion.
Most manufacturers don't bother with racing because they don't recognize a return on investment. [With the exception of Fountain and a few small, specialized builders].
Cigarette was involved in racing prior to Skip Braver's purchase of the company.
So my question is, did Mr. Bravers decision hurt Cigarette sales? I personally don't believe the production numbers will support that supposition.
How about Nortech??? Is their recent success due in any part to supporting racing?
Yes, old style racing is a romantic thought. But it lacks almost everything required to attract builders, sponsors, media and fans in todays world.
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factory support wasnt there in the early days of nascar either so your point is mute...they came after they saw the interest.
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
but nascar does have classes..you make your car to the specs that nascar mandates no more than 750 hp, they provide the tires. if you want to run less hp you race busch.
Nascar keeps the 2 classes as far apart as possible yet the brain trust in offshore racing runs 10 classes in a single afternoon with many of the the classes running together.