Just for snicks and giggles I've made a list of the people busting Sleeper daves chops and when I'm at the runs this year I'll see who is being holier than thou...Racegirl said it best, last time her insurance went up was because of her. I find it hard to believe that so many people are perfect in everyday life, I'm sure there are many people that still smoke even since the 1963 warnings on the packs... god forbid anyone my age or older still be alive as cars didnt have seat belts..I drank water from a hose not a plastic bottle. guess I'm just an anomally. I have personally seen some of the people on this thread run wide open in rough water with no gear on...When some of you start making the payments on Dave's boat and for everything in his life, then and only then can you tell him what to do. this is america where we have the freedom to do as we choose. Just because you have the right to say or do something doesnt make you right in saying or doing it.... I say Dave it's your boat do as you wish and accept responsibilities for your actions, isnt that what this is all about?