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Panther 02-06-2006 01:52 PM

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Ok, so when are they going to make this readily available to the public and how is everyone who owns a boat going to be notified, when they get pulled over?

I can see a boaters test which doesn't take much time out of someones day but what's the deal with a boaters class? Nothing is written clearly and it doesn't sound like they know how they're going to do it. :(

VinMan 02-06-2006 07:27 PM

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I doubt this could ever be put in effect for this season. There would never be enough time to implement it.

Smarty 02-07-2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
MANASQUAN, N.J. – With the ending of the 211th Legislature, the passage of boater education legislation places New Jersey’s education law amongst the strongest in the nation, according to the Marine Trades Association of New Jersey (MTA/NJ), which said Assembly Bill 2624 (Smith) was a major priority for the association.

The new boater education and safety law applies to all people age 16 years and older who operate registered vessels above 12 feet that are defined as power vessels under the law. It becomes effective over a staggered period of time. Specifically, persons born after December 31, 1978 have to take the course immediately. Persons born after December 31, 1968 and on or before December 31, 1978 have to take the course before June 1, 2006. Persons born after December 31, 1958 and on or before December 31, 1968 have to take the course before June 1, 2007. Persons born after December 31, 1948 and on or before December 31, 1958 have to take the course before June 1, 2008. All other persons need to take the course before June 1, 2009, according to the association.

This bill states that “out of state" boaters 18 years of age and older who operate a power vessel for less than 90 days in New Jersey are exempt from the safety course if they can show proof of similar education from NASBLA, the Coast Guard or other state.

At the request of legislators and others who are long time boaters, language was added to the law that allows the Superintendent of State Police to develop an “experienced boater test". Persons taking and passing the test will not be required to complete the boat safety course. The test is required to be developed using national standards, MTA/NJ reported.

The association said it was successful in defining what the boat safety course would look like. The boat safety course must be at least eight hours of instruction, including six hours of classroom time and a closed book examination. This definition, and the definition in the law for “approved boat safety instructor," are identical to NASBLA national standards.

The personal watercraft law was also updated in this Act. Specifically, the law regarding the operation of a PWC was changed to require all persons, age 16 years and older, to take a boat safety course without exception. This does not apply to persons renting a PWC, however, and that law remains in effect. In addition, the bill does not apply to persons renting a boat. The rental laws require only that a person receive safety instruction from the rental company prior to use and these laws and regulations have been in effect since 1997, according to the association.

“We believe that an informed boater – one who has completed a standardized boating safety class-– is much more likely to be a safe and courteous boater," stated MTA/NJ President Tom Leaming. “An educated boater will be prepared to follow the Rules of the Road making our waterways safer and more enjoyable for everyone."

The legislation was passed after a more than three-year effort by the Marine Trades Association of New Jersey. The MTA/NJ argued successfully that a strong standard, based on national review and research, would improve boating safety in New Jersey.

Unfortunately the change I was pushing for in this legislation was that it be applied to "ALL" boaters no matter their age or vessel.
Once again the sail boaters had a stronger voice and were able to keep many of themselves exempt. :mad:
I see trips to Trenton in my future.....
:rolleyes:

What's good for one is good for all!!!

I wonder if the courses that the US Coast Guard Auxiliary has at the local community colleges and night schools will be sufficient/approved for this law? Or does it have to be by the State Police, and or authorized by the NJ State Police? I am scheduled to take a safe boating course, and will give the NJDMV my course certificate upon completion with the expectation that I will get the recreational boater endorsement to my drivers license. I that a realistic expectation?

SHARKEY-IMAGES 02-07-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smarty
I wonder if the courses that the US Coast Guard Auxiliary has at the local community colleges and night schools will be sufficient/approved for this law? Or does it have to be by the State Police, and or authorized by the NJ State Police? I am scheduled to take a safe boating course, and will give the NJDMV my course certificate upon completion with the expectation that I will get the recreational boater endorsement to my drivers license. I that a realistic expectation?

Contact the NJ Marine Trades Association. They may be able to help or the NJ Marine State Police.

Marine Trades Link

NJ Marine State Police

The certificate information has not been updated yet on the Police Site.

HiPerf2000 02-07-2006 01:32 PM

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What does this mean for the people who boat on the deleware river? Does it only apply for NJ registered boats??

I took a CG course when i was 13 and had my first boat. I had to carry it with me at all times.....but who knows where that is now.

28Skater300x 02-07-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rainmn
Is this the same course we had to take to be legal on a PWC?

THAT IS MY QUESTION ALSO.
You know there is a whole other way of looking at this. It's another law another reason to stop you for no reason. My experience has been that the people who suffer from more laws is the person who is on the water more. Anybody ever been pulled over in moderate seas or boat traffic and told your not allowed to fend off the officers boat. Been there. Who pays for that scratch or worse. Look I could go on and on with all kinds of examples of mine and friends. Point here is the noose only gets tighter and somebody just tied it up. :(

Smarty 02-07-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
Contact the NJ Marine Trades Association. They may be able to help or the NJ Marine State Police.

Marine Trades Link

NJ Marine State Police

The certificate information has not been updated yet on the Police Site.

Thanks, that answered my question.

Panther 02-07-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
Contact the NJ Marine Trades Association. They may be able to help or the NJ Marine State Police.

Marine Trades Link

NJ Marine State Police

The certificate information has not been updated yet on the Police Site.

Yeah, it hasn't been updated since 1996! :eek:

SHARKEY-IMAGES 02-07-2006 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther
Yeah, it hasn't been updated since 1996! :eek:

Actually 2004

SHARKEY-IMAGES 02-07-2006 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HiPerf2000
What does this mean for the people who boat on the deleware river? Does it only apply for NJ registered boats??

I took a CG course when i was 13 and had my first boat. I had to carry it with me at all times.....but who knows where that is now.


Q4 I live in another state, do I need a boat safety certificate?
A4.
Yes Out-of-state residents are not exempt from the education requirement listed above in Processing of NJ Boat Safety Certificates I and II; however, NJ does honor boat safety certificates from other states. We will also honor boat safety courses that are National Association of State Boating Law Administrators (NASBLA) approved if they are from an in-person course.

And from experience on the Deleware, I launched my NJ Registered Bullet 130 on the Jersey side and was given a $100 fine by Pa Fish & Game @ the Hydroplane races for Negligence of the Capacity Plate. I exceeded the amount of HP stated on the plate.
What really pissed me off was they exceeded theirs too on their boat! :mad:


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