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Old 03-10-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
I just went to the cig site.
It says the freeboard for a 39TG unlimited is 41".
There aint no way the rubrail at the transom is 3.5ft above waterline.
it wouldn't be the rubrail, it would be from the water to the top of the gunwale, which is the top of the side of the boat... looking at the pic cigdaze posted on the first page, i would say that is pretty close...
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Old 03-10-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean H
make sure you have plenty of bumpers...
Yes. They are already tied to the stainless steel hooky thingys.
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Old 03-10-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by noboat
Hot Boat, I think you mean "cockpit depth"! I agree many of the new boats that kick azz in the rough have lower "cockpit depth" and sit down seats!

I would actually like to somehow convert my Pantera to a sit down boat!


Cockpit depth and cabin head room are all proportional to the amount of freeboard.

I personally prefer to sit down in my boat and most fast boats. I converted my 28 scarab to a sit down boat and feel a much safer and same goes for my wife.

You don’t need a lot of free board to make a great rough water boat. I do agree that if you are going to run the ocean or very rough water I would prefer a boat with more freeboard especially in the event of a brake down. As for me, boating on the Hudson and Lake George I personally don’t feel the need for an extreme rough water boat like a big Cig, Apache, Sonic, Etc. They are nice but not for my needs.

I boat from point A to point B. I don’t spend much time on the boat unless I am driving it. If I had a family and spent more time tied up or anchored in a cove I would have a deferent boat, one with a deeper cockpit and more cabin head room. If that’s the case I would look for a boat with more Freeboard.

Here is a photo of my 28 scarab converted to sit down seats
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Old 03-10-2006, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: What is freeboard?

Originally Posted by fund razor
I've never been one to believe that incorrect usage changes a word's definition.
You can call the right side of your boat port if you want.
Doesn't change the fact that portside is the other side.

You can call your interior cabin depth "freeboard" if you choose.
Free speech and all that.

Chapman's. Page 6 in the 1972 edition.
Freeboard is the "height of a boat's topsides from the waterline to her deck."
Which is not all that helpful without the little picture they use to illustrate.

Maybe it is important to note that vertical measurements inside a vessel are referred to as "depth." Vertical measurements outside a vessel are referred to as "height."

Freeboard height is measured on the outside of a vessel.
Cockpit depth would be an inside measurement.
FR, I 100% agree it's incorrect. But, what I was trying to say is I'd guess that in 80% of the "freeboard" questions/comments on this board (and others)they are really talking about cockpit depth.
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Old 03-10-2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot Boat
I personally prefer to sit down in my boat and most fast boats. I converted my 28 scarab to a sit down boat and feel a much safer and same goes for my wife.

Here is a photo of my 28 scarab converted to sit down seats
Hot Boat, did you do the conversion yourself? Did you have to relocate throttles, shifters, etc or modify the helm? Any before and after pics?

I would love to do this to my Pantera but everytime I get in the boat and I start looking around at all the other stuff I would need to modify to make it work and get overwhelmed.

Nice looking Scarab by the way!
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Old 03-10-2006, 01:59 PM
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I just got this reply from Formula customer service...

"HI Rob,
In measuring the from the deck floor to the bottom of the windshield we come up with 32" of free board. Please let us know if this is not the measurement that you are looking for.

Regards,
Customer Support @
Formula Boats"

So you tell me that only us HP boaters think this is the use of the term???
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Originally Posted by noboat
FR, I 100% agree it's incorrect. But, what I was trying to say is I'd guess that in 80% of the "freeboard" questions/comments on this board (and others)they are really talking about cockpit depth.
Ya know Scott.... it might be more like 90%!!

Even the customer service dept at Formula confuses cockpit depth with freeboard height.
It does kinda seem like Perf boaters are more liberal with the meaning.

I keep reading threads about how the freeboard is directly related to the cabin height and the cockpit depth... and that is especially true with a perf boat style deep V hull... but not other kinds of vessels.

Like canoes.
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Old 03-10-2006, 02:10 PM
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Look at this pic... where do you measure the freeboard, at pt 1, 2, or 3?
or is it the highest point of the hull when the boat sits in the water?

Also, see the red lines i put on the transom. I'd say the lower one is the waterline. so whats the distance between them?
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According to Chapman you can measure it at 1, 2 or 3.

Chapmans uses "topsides" rather than "gunwale"

You would get different freeboard heights at each point, just as you may get different beam widths at each point.... but they would each be correct... for that point. Your beam at midships is probably the widest?

But.... freeboard is measured with the boat in the water. It's relative to bouyancy.
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Old 03-10-2006, 02:21 PM
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FR... don't forget Formula sells alot more than HP boats.
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