why all the Baja questions???
10-12-2006, 06:28 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
the Miami show is always around Feb the same time the Syr show is. stay tuned someone will let us know. back in the good loe days Boathouse had Checkmate/Sonic/Fountian/Active Thunder/Motion cats/and a few others.Offshore performance in Bewerton had Profile/Imp. WE white water Marine had Donzi/ Porline/Vindicator/Stingray/Nordic/Rinker. now they are all gone except Dick Head Conjob with Baja 
10-17-2006, 03:47 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
Originally Posted by sleeper_dave
I don't mean to criticize anyone about their choice of boat. If you own a Baja, it suits your needs, and you're happy with it, that's all that matters.
I own a Fountain. There are certainly many compromises involved in owning a Fountain, and I probably won't buy another one. The beak just cuts out a lot of cabin space. I want more cabin space, for the way I use my boat. So next time around it'll probably be a Cigarette, maybe a Formula. Of course budget will determine vintage, as it did with my last purchase.
But, rigging and vinyl work aside, the basic construction of a Baja is just not as strong as many other brand out there. The older Baja's i've seen around here are all beat to hell, with a lot of stress cracks and outright fiberglass damage. On Lake St. Clair, you don't get big rollers like you do on the ocean, you get a washing machine from hell. If there are 4 footers out there they might be on an 8' wavelength, tops. It's all chop. Boats get beaten up. I see new Baja's out there, but they seem to dissappear after awhile, you don't see nearly as many older Baja's as you do newer ones. They're all at earl the pearls being parted out because the hull is ****ed. Conversely, you see older Fountains all over the place. Very few "big dollar" boats around here, I saw 1 OL and maybe 2 new Cigs all summer. There's a small Spectre down the canal from me. All the other go-fasts are Fountains, Formulas, or less than 5 years old.
Most of you with Baja's probably spent more than me. I'm not trying to be all "holier than thou" or any crap like that. Hell, i'm driving a $35k boat, probably one of the cheaper boats on this site. If you like your boat, enjoy it, and don't worry about what other people say. But if someone asks a question about the difference between a Baja and a Fountain, I'm going to pipe in with the quality issue, because there's a difference and it's real. If i didn't know crap about boats, and i was shopping for my first boat, i'd expect the same honesty. If someone knows enough about boats to know what the good brands are and what the lower quality brands are, I'd want to know.
If your landlubber buddy hit the lotto and was comparing, say, a Bayliner to a Formula, would you bite your tongue and let him buy the Bayliner? I hope not.
I own a Fountain. There are certainly many compromises involved in owning a Fountain, and I probably won't buy another one. The beak just cuts out a lot of cabin space. I want more cabin space, for the way I use my boat. So next time around it'll probably be a Cigarette, maybe a Formula. Of course budget will determine vintage, as it did with my last purchase.
But, rigging and vinyl work aside, the basic construction of a Baja is just not as strong as many other brand out there. The older Baja's i've seen around here are all beat to hell, with a lot of stress cracks and outright fiberglass damage. On Lake St. Clair, you don't get big rollers like you do on the ocean, you get a washing machine from hell. If there are 4 footers out there they might be on an 8' wavelength, tops. It's all chop. Boats get beaten up. I see new Baja's out there, but they seem to dissappear after awhile, you don't see nearly as many older Baja's as you do newer ones. They're all at earl the pearls being parted out because the hull is ****ed. Conversely, you see older Fountains all over the place. Very few "big dollar" boats around here, I saw 1 OL and maybe 2 new Cigs all summer. There's a small Spectre down the canal from me. All the other go-fasts are Fountains, Formulas, or less than 5 years old.
Most of you with Baja's probably spent more than me. I'm not trying to be all "holier than thou" or any crap like that. Hell, i'm driving a $35k boat, probably one of the cheaper boats on this site. If you like your boat, enjoy it, and don't worry about what other people say. But if someone asks a question about the difference between a Baja and a Fountain, I'm going to pipe in with the quality issue, because there's a difference and it's real. If i didn't know crap about boats, and i was shopping for my first boat, i'd expect the same honesty. If someone knows enough about boats to know what the good brands are and what the lower quality brands are, I'd want to know.
If your landlubber buddy hit the lotto and was comparing, say, a Bayliner to a Formula, would you bite your tongue and let him buy the Bayliner? I hope not.
Says something I think.
10-17-2006, 04:17 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
The Baja's I see in the showroom look nice...the old one's are beat to heck.
Says something I think.
Says something I think.
One year old, five years, ten years, fifteen years, twenty years old .....
10-17-2006, 07:44 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
GOD I AM SICK OF THIS SH$T LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A FEW FOUNTIANS AND FORMULAS 40FT 88 IN 92 BROKEN STRINGERS THE OWNER TELLS ME IT COMMON WITH THEM, 02 FOUNTIAN BLOWS HOLE IN BOTTOM OF HULL RACING. 01 FRIENDS f2 FORMULA BREAKS STRINGERS AND SO SO AND THEN HE RACED A 02 38 FOR TWO MORE YEARS AND SOLD IT FOR 79,000 BECAUSE OF OTHER PROBLEMS. I HAVE BEEN BEATEN BY ONE FORMULA IN 16YRS THAT WAS FRED BOWMEN TEAM OUTLAW OR OL TEAM OBSESSION WHEN I HAD STOCK POWER WHICH WAS BACK IN 90 I HAVE RUN AGAINST FOUNTIANS,SUPERBOAT 24/30 WITH 200HPS TWINS AND BIG BLOCKS.CIGS FORMULAS 24/27/29/21/35S BUDDYS SB 24 WITH 525 BEAT HIM ALL DAY, HARDLY EVER TO BE BEAT ON THE CAPE OR BOSTON IN 16YRS WITH A AVERAGE OF 585HP MOST OF THE TIME AND YES I HAVE STRESS CRACKS BUT SO DOES ALL THE ABOVE AND YES I HAVE BEEN BEATEN BY SUTPHENS OUTER LIMITS AND A FEW OTHERS JUST TRYING TO SAY BAJA IS NO GAYLINER COLORS ARE IN THE GEL THEY USE BALA CORING'S NEW BOATS WITH KEVLAR AND OTHER HIGH TECH MATERIALS SO QUIT THE SH@T THEM BEAK BOATS LOOK LIKE THERE SINKING ANYWAY 
HEY IS REGGIE GOING TO DUCT TAPE ANOTHER WORLD TITLE IN USV BY PUSHING IT THROUGHT THE START AGAIN 
OR IS HE GOING TO LET OL, CIG , SKATER RUN TOO LETS ROLL MY NEXT BOAT WILL BE A SUTPHEN,JOKER,SUPERBOAT THOSE ARE NOT COOKIE CUTTER
HEY IS REGGIE GOING TO DUCT TAPE ANOTHER WORLD TITLE IN USV BY PUSHING IT THROUGHT THE START AGAIN OR IS HE GOING TO LET OL, CIG , SKATER RUN TOO LETS ROLL MY NEXT BOAT WILL BE A SUTPHEN,JOKER,SUPERBOAT THOSE ARE NOT COOKIE CUTTER
10-17-2006, 08:32 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
RG,
by any chance when you mention the ride in the 22 BAJA, would you be talking about that ride from the casino in Bomars BAJA?
by any chance when you mention the ride in the 22 BAJA, would you be talking about that ride from the casino in Bomars BAJA?
10-17-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
Originally Posted by PorscheSpeed
RG,
by any chance when you mention the ride in the 22 BAJA, would you be talking about that ride from the casino in Bomars BAJA?
by any chance when you mention the ride in the 22 BAJA, would you be talking about that ride from the casino in Bomars BAJA?
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10-17-2006, 09:02 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
Originally Posted by StillHaulin@61
What constitutes an old one?
One year old, five years, ten years, fifteen years, twenty years old .....
One year old, five years, ten years, fifteen years, twenty years old .....
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10-17-2006, 09:05 PM
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Re: why all the Baja questions???
Originally Posted by Racegirl3
No Darlin. Chad and I took the Red Rocket over once a few years ago. The ride with you guys was "scary fun" but the water that day with Chad was "OMG we could die scary fun"
I do recall you sitting back there yelling " WEEEEEEEEE"
