surge brakes or electric over hydraulic
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i have gotten prices between $58-$6500 for a triple axle, stainless/cadium caliper, brakes on 2 axles, torsion axles, leds all priced with surge disc set-up ...loadrite, fastload, hi-tech marine etc...south florida was at $8350
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Hey man if I could help u or anyone else I would be happy to. We have some large bids we are working on, to give you an idea on how expensive some of these components can be some of these emergency trailers use a small onan generator $13,500. Some of the flashing lights are $2250 for a light.
If you deduct the surge $350, add the box when ordering new.
If you deduct the surge $350, add the box when ordering new.
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Hey man if I could help u or anyone else I would be happy to. We have some large bids we are working on, to give you an idea on how expensive some of these components can be some of these emergency trailers use a small onan generator $13,500. Some of the flashing lights are $2250 for a light.
If you deduct the surge $350, add the box when ordering new.
If you deduct the surge $350, add the box when ordering new.
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We always liked the idea that surge brakes work with any tow vehicle with a hitch,no additional hookups. If you have to tow a boat with EOH and your truck isn't set up for electric,will the brakes work at all?
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Originally Posted by Magicfloat
We always liked the idea that surge brakes work with any tow vehicle with a hitch,no additional hookups. If you have to tow a boat with EOH and your truck isn't set up for electric,will the brakes work at all?
Nope, you have to have the brake controler in the truck for it to work. Even the EOH with drum brakes are better than surge systems. Go with the disc and EOH.
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My new surge-disc trailer stops just as well as my racecar trailer with electric drums.
With EOH you have to have a brake controller installed and fiddle a little with the setting until you find what works. Easy enough to have Uhaul install. I use a trailer connector in the cab so my controller sits in the glove box when not being used. I'd expect the trailer to come with a 7-way harness so you need that on the tow vehicle also.
With surge, you'll probably get an electric reverse lock-out solenoid, which is an extra wire seperate from the classic four-wire connector. It's supposed to be wired into tow vehicle's back-up lights so when in reverse the trailer doesn't apply the brakes. I'm not sure if these couplers still have the provision for a lock-out pin. I think I'm going to install a www.jetconnex.com wiring kit to clean it all up and make it easy.
Two ways to skin the cat I suppose, each with it's own pros and cons, with the EOH having a bit more up front cost. IMHO, the surge setup requires a little less thinking once the wiring is done. The only drawback might be as indicated, if you're towing through mountains.
Did you get my PM? I think I mentioned the price I paid, and they're building more Formula trailers now that I've given them feedback, and Formula specs They built mine in 3 days.
Good luck,
Michael
With EOH you have to have a brake controller installed and fiddle a little with the setting until you find what works. Easy enough to have Uhaul install. I use a trailer connector in the cab so my controller sits in the glove box when not being used. I'd expect the trailer to come with a 7-way harness so you need that on the tow vehicle also.
With surge, you'll probably get an electric reverse lock-out solenoid, which is an extra wire seperate from the classic four-wire connector. It's supposed to be wired into tow vehicle's back-up lights so when in reverse the trailer doesn't apply the brakes. I'm not sure if these couplers still have the provision for a lock-out pin. I think I'm going to install a www.jetconnex.com wiring kit to clean it all up and make it easy.
Two ways to skin the cat I suppose, each with it's own pros and cons, with the EOH having a bit more up front cost. IMHO, the surge setup requires a little less thinking once the wiring is done. The only drawback might be as indicated, if you're towing through mountains.
Did you get my PM? I think I mentioned the price I paid, and they're building more Formula trailers now that I've given them feedback, and Formula specs They built mine in 3 days.
Good luck,
Michael
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I have always had surge brakes, converted this trailer to
electric over hydraulic .
I had air over hydraulic and can't tell the difference.
Best investment I ever made.Pulling 40' Skater with 06 F-350
and truck was already set up for gain adjustments.
You have to apply the brakes for surge to engage in some cases this would be a little nerve racking.
Electric over hydraulic can be adjusted were you just touch the peddle and your trailer is stopping.
No problems backing or hilly conditions.
electric over hydraulic .
I had air over hydraulic and can't tell the difference.
Best investment I ever made.Pulling 40' Skater with 06 F-350
and truck was already set up for gain adjustments.
You have to apply the brakes for surge to engage in some cases this would be a little nerve racking.
Electric over hydraulic can be adjusted were you just touch the peddle and your trailer is stopping.
No problems backing or hilly conditions.