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Old 02-29-2008, 05:32 PM
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Rik, have you put any surface drives on a 48 Sea Ray?
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:09 PM
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Leilas, who are you?

Omerta, none on the 48' but we did quite a few on the 63' Sundancer. That was a fast boat. 1350 Cats and over 55 mph.

We raced Stuart Hymes on the Gov Cut in Miami against his 63' Sunseeker with 1350 Cats. Not really a fair race but fun none the less.
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Originally Posted by cosmic12
I thought Merc pretty much owned Fountian now. I am suprized they let him use anything else
Mercruiser & Cummins have been in bed for a few years now
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Originally Posted by Rik
Leilas, who are you?

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Wiggler, Buddy00, et al.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by leilas
the qsb 480 is a nice package and very easily upgraded to the 600hp , all for under 30k, very nice package

The 600hp motor from cummins merc is a QSC 8.3 liter. The QSB's are all 5.9 liter motors and their hp stops at 480. YOur going to have to go aftermarket, and thats something i would not do.
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by leilas
Rik who are you ?, http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/i...cons/icon5.gif. the qsb5.9 is just a unpublished program away to get to 600hp
The proper words are FACTORY WARRANTY.

Cummins merc doesnt offer the motor you speak of and neither does reggie. Its QSC not QSB. You want to hot rod your 5.9.......go for it. It aint no dodge truck motor in your fountain 48sc.

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"The rest of the story"

Originally Posted by tblrklakemo
The proper words are FACTORY WARRENTY.

Cummins merc doesnt offer the motor you speak of and neither does reggie. Its QSC not QSB. You want to hot rod your 5.9.......go for it. It aint no dodge truck motor in your fountain 48sc.
The max warranted horse power rating available for the QSB5.9 is 480hp. Now as Paul Harvey goes the "rest of the story". The QSB 5.9 is controlled by an ECM . Any maintenance needs for the ECM are taken care of by an "INSITE" qualified Tech. He uses a laptop with "INSITE" software installed and "INLINE" modules and cables to hook the laptop to your engine. Now lets say you have to replace a bad ECM. You need to get a new ECM but it won't have it's program loaded. You will need all the afore mentioned stuff plus an ICAL CD. The ICAL CD is a CD with the programs to program blank ECMs plus patches to upgrade current running programs. There exists an ICAL program to turn the QSB up to 600 hp. Its for paramilitary use. Using it voids the warranty. Now the INSITE system is set up that every time a tech messes with it an electronic fingerprint is left and they can figure out who's laptop did it. Break the rules and your laptop gets locked out of the system. P.S. Its spelled "Warranty"

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Originally Posted by leilas
thanks firefox for the explanation, you are exactly correct, the 5.9 qsb- 600hp is a nice very reliable marine package with the surface drive, and very competetive.
Except its not sold through merc cummins, has no warranty, thus not a "package"....get it? Have you done it yourself?

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Thumbs up The Real Reasons

1) Better Serivce for the dealer from the mfg
2) Quieter
3) No smoke
4) Better resale
5) They do not blow injector pumps on a regular basis
6) Consumer perception
7) Performance is the same (top end) but Cummins come on plane faster.
8) I think that's enough reasons.

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Originally Posted by shogren
1) Better Serivce for the dealer from the mfg
2) Quieter
3) No smoke
4) Better resale
5) They do not blow injector pumps on a regular basis
6) Consumer perception
7) Performance is the same (top end) but Cummins come on plane faster.
8) I think that's enough reasons.

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Maybe thats why since Cummins 6BTA is taking away market share from the Yanmar 6LP in the Japanese market.
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