In six years I have never been in a situation where I am not sure what to do.
I will say this, I met Fred in that parking lot at TNT years ago when Offshoreonly headquarters was there. I am going to say that while Fred has been faced with some terrible situations in the past year, I am sure he will do the right thing.
I ask that you all relax a little and not make this thread a stone throwing contest as I know some people on here love the controversy and to stir the pot.
I will leave this thread open for now and will watch the direction it heads from here.
Posts on here are not going to help the situation while I am sure Fred works on some of the issues at hand. To those that are owed money (alleged), lets give Fred a chance to work some things out.
Last edited by RunninHotRacing163.1; 11-16-2007 at 02:27 PM. Reason: I respect Steves request
Fred, we've talked numerous times and I've placed orders with you in the past. I enjoyed our conversations and your insight. If we ever met in-person I'm sure I'd buy you a drink!
Unfortunately life doesn't slow down and we're all in a battle for survival... The moment you let your guard down someone else is quick to jump in..
Keep your chin up, you're a entreprenuer and you'll be successful at whatever you do.
No one runs a perfect business, including me. I can assure you if there are several alledged customers out money, on a board that Trick advertises on, it deserves merit that an explanation of what the heck is going on is warranted.... not a peep until the daughter gets on here and runs her trap.
Maybe you know more of the situation than the rest of us which is fine... you have proven that you can handle all of these situations well without getting the mob out of control (but even you have to admit that this is a very smart mob in most cases). If Fred is having several problems personally, so be it. We all do.. and all of us are pretty reasonable people here and for it to come to a head with a thread like this? This has gone on way too often and way too long.
I feel the pain from people that are waiting for parts or a refund on their money. I have been in that situation before involving hundreds of thousands with National Marine.
I have known Fred a long time and knowing Fred, Im more than confident that everyone will be satisfied when all is said and done. I honestly cant see Fred stiffing ANYONE on anything, It just not his style to walk away from a problem. I know this doesnt help anyone who has been waiting for product or a refund... but If I was betting on this one, my money is on Fred doing the right thing. eventually
OSO this thread needs to be closed, too much speculation, no facts, and its ruining a busness, a personal life, and one of your sponsors,
i think the best thing would have been to say "I understand all your concerns and here is what we are doing to get them straightened out" Not once did you give any insight as to why so many questions (and phone calls) are going unanswered
The hope would have been that you would have at least told us Fred was OK and things are being addressed with an update coming soon
We are now left to wonder
1)Is Fred Ok
2) Is Trick Marine still in business
3) Will he be satisfying his commitments on stuff paid for already
4) When will he be satisfying his paid for commitments
5) When will someone be answering the phones again at Trick (If ever)
I helped my son get a job with Fred a few years ago and he worked for him for a year before he moved back here to Michigan I talked to Fred three weeks ago and all seemed fine. Has something changed ??
Joy you have hung out with my son. You know who I am, and I would hope you would respect what i have to say
I am here to tell you your post only brought more questions and less answers to a site that just wants to know what is going on
People on here want to know how they can make there future decisions regarding getting parts for there boats.
Part of this decision process is to know if the supplier that many people have been using is still in business
Fred has peoples money, and has made commitments based on receiving that money, the question most everyone wants (and i believe deserves) is an answer to ---IS Trick Marine still open for business????
Joy even you must agree that every one of Trick Marines customers are at least owed that much, then many can decide what course of action to take next relative to obtaining parts wanted and needed for there boats and who to contact to receive refunds if they are not going to be getting their parts
To Fred--- I hope all is well and you are ok
You have been a well respected guy on OSO I hope you dont disappear into the sunset
Let us know if you are ok and if Trick is still open for business
The unanswered question of how trick is posting Ebay feedback yet not responding on here remains unanswered. If I were having "issues", Ebay feedback would be pretty close to the bottom.
Fred sounds like a stand-up guy but the silence is an invitation for indictment in the public arena. His daughter coming here and chastizing people who have money in play with no product in return is salt in the wounds of those folks. What she neglected to explain is why he's not speaking for himself.
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