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  1. #81
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    The DNR link says boats 16 feet or more are required to have nav lights.

    It also says in rule #1 for pwc's:
    No person may operate a PWC from sunset to sunrise.

  2. #82
    Gold Member Gold Member Shore Thing's Avatar
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    If that's accurate and the law says the boat is required to have operational nav lights no matter what time of day, then you definitely have a case against the rental company for renting illegal and "unsafe" watercraft.

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    Platinum Member Platinum Member ROB FREEMAN's Avatar
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    acually when it comes to lighting on watercraft , all fed coastgaurd laws are required ! thus stating as the fellows above have stated , during sunrise and sunset and under any resticted visibility ! wi and us coast guard apply , THIS IS FACT !!
    Last edited by ROB FREEMAN; 03-06-2008 at 04:20 PM.
    Rockin Robin

  4. #84
    Gold Member Gold Member phragle's Avatar
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    in my own experience, I have tried to start a couple buisnesses, bu the insurance was cost prohibitive, and doing anything where liablilty could even remotely come into play with ins. is suicidle. 1st, was something like the old malibu grand prix or kart to kart, but on dirt with mini buggies with tiny motors, not fast enough to hurt oneself but fast enough to bounce around and have fun. the second was a non transport EMT service for mx races, parades, softball games etc. if you were to get hurt, we would put on a bandaid or call 911 and have an ambulance take you to the hosp. really nothing more than basic 1st aid. both in calif. face this country, if you fart and it stinks, some tree hugger can sue you for air pollution.
    please read the fine print

  5. #85
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    Rob, what is the latest?

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shore Thing View Post
    If they disabled the headlights and the contract stated, No driving at night and no driving in inclimate weather, then the renter remains liable.

    I'm not a lawyer though and this is all just my opinion. But I doubt the rental company shoved booze down this scumbags throat and told him to drive around at night without lights.
    When you rent a car, your auto insurance covers you, your credit card covers you, and there is supplemental insurance available to cover your liability. And someone can still sue the rental car company. I had a guy tell me one time that he was riding in a rental van with his dad and uncle, uncle driving, uncle fell asleep and they rolled it. They sued the rental company and got $250k. This was just a random guy on the street who overheard us talking about a legitimate lawsuit that a friend of mine should have filed but didn't (an off-duy cop kicked his ass for honking his horn, then filed an overtime claim for it).

    Sue everybody, and sue them all at once. If you sue them one at a time, they can each try to pass off liability to the guy who's not in the room.

  7. #87
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    Sue em all. Let the Judge & Jury sort the mess. They will decide who is "it".

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