More BS again ,the modern engines are all dyno,d as complete engine,s ,and measured as CORRECTED horsepower not uncorrected ....

I have no idea as to where you heard this ,but thats from the stone age ..

There are a lot guys driving a Mack ,Kenworth ,peterbilt ,etc overhere ,these guys have multiple trucks combo,s ,when they go to Italy with 50 ton , and have to climb steep hills ,the US trucks can,t keep up with the Scania,s and MAN,s ,never ever ,only on top speed they win because the euro trucks are limited at slightly less than 60 mph.
Thats from guys that have both the US and Euro trucks ,seen it myself .....drove them all ...but you won,t believe that ......I work on these trucks every day,but I guess you know better..

I don,t call the US engines trash because it isn,t so ,you should be ashamed yourself ,US people love the Mercedes BMW and Porsche ,Audi ,Lamborghini,Ferrari ,etc ,,I,ve never heard anybody calls them trash,, but I guess if you can,t win a discussion ,you throw in all you can .....right ?

Times are a changing
 

Joe,
Thats back in the day logging figures. The industry is an evolving thing. They have tons of new technology. Regulations have changed. Modes of operations have changed. Things like weigh on the fly and Pre Pass. Paperless logs. Secure internet posting of cargo manifests. Interstate internet hook ups between scale houses. Satellite communication with the trucks. Companies know where the truck is and what it's doing and if necessary the dispatcher can shut a truck down from his computer at headquarters. Changes to the hours of service rules. Operations wise Team drivers maximized. They do a FULL 100% drop & hook. Solo drivers and Shag drivers handle the load and unload. Back under the old 10 & 8 rules with a 65 mph governed truck As a solo drives the max I could run in a "day" (24 hrs one log page) was 760+ miles. When they went to 11 & 10 I was able to start hitting 840+ miles in a day. Plus they shaved 14 hours off the reset after a 5 day flame out. I got off the road when they banned splits. Also stuff like when the truck maintenance getting done while the driver is sleeping. Back in the day a solo could log a million miles in 7 to 8 years now they do it in 4 to 5 years. Teams? Their trucks are turned up higher they are operationally treated special and they are maximized as much as possible. My best year solo I did 265,700.:p

And I drive currently a MAN...
Thats the same truck maker that built the Very first diesels ever and many U-boats had them too.

Now regarding the claims of how much a US trucker makes I have to take Firefoxes claims with a load of salt and the miles would be 5 times more than I do at 60hrs weeks working 5 days a week.
Now you had to talk about gross pay and as a O/O which equals to about 60-70thou at the bottom line max.
I know a few Truckers overthere as O/O and they cry out currently when they hear what I make as an employee...

BS all the way...
And my friend has a 470hp Dodge Ram 5.9...
And my dyno works too...

blah blah blah.. and the Audi diesel V12 won the LeMans24Hr OVERALL.
Now that was flat out all the way from the start with 200+mph tops...
It can take a pleasure boating task with no sweat. But cummins struggles after 500 hp... and can´t last a 24 hrs race even on land.

I do. I haul those mothers constantly...what do you like to know about them ?

Never on both counts...The Banks sidwinder would never Finish the races the Audi can put up with.
Happen to have a friend deeply connected with the current Rally side of Audi Motorsport and I´m a diehard GM nut but the fact is the Duramax isn´t all that great...

[QUOTE=HabanaJoe;2532034]The question is, our experience here in the US with big V-8 diesels is they don't hold up to a lot of rapid load changing. QUOTE]

I'm sorry, Joe, but that doesn't make a bit of sense to me. What in the world does load changing have to do with engine durability based on cylinder configuration? It just sounds like a bunch of poorly designed engines.

Michael

First things first

firefox - I like you, we talk on here have some fun, but your miles that a truck can run are just not possible ie:
24 hr/day x 365 days = 8760 hrs

500,000 mi divided by 8760 hrs = 57 miles per hours average speed.

I'm trying not to be insulting here but there is no way anyone can look at that and say it's possible.

Michael1 - let me explain myself about the V8 remark. In the olden days as someone pointed out that I am part of, we had 3 V8 engines for class 8 trucks. The Cummins 903, Detroit 8V92 and Cat 3408 and for whatever reason the bottom ends on these engines would not last as long as an in-line 6. It was always explained as simply the I-6 has more bearing surface for the same Hp, and the shifting is what tears up the bottom ends, hence I-6 bottom end lasted longer.

Was that the case as to why??? Could it be the advancements in bearings and oiling (such as low pressure, high flow) were coming to the I-6 engines and V's got nothing and were allowed to die a natural death???

Ask any old timer like myself who had trucks in the late 70's and early 80's about V-8's and they tell you the bottom ends don't last. Again, I don't for sure why, just know they sucked.

For you doubting Thomases, I attached a my first peice of press ever. Look at the bottom it talks about classes starting in 1983. If you can read it I all ready had 350 trucks and trailers by that time, I started the business in 1979 running all team trucks from NY to LA and back. I may not be able to give you exact reasons as to why the V-8's were bad, but I know they cost me money and couldn't stay together.

we need a light engine like yanmar or cat and multiple gear tranny 2-3 speeds ZF or Weissman and should get decent reliable results.....