What is going on with Poker Runs?
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for me the biggest negatives are of coarse the cost of fuel, for the boat and the truck, arrogent people, fake women, no- it all's.. and insurance..
i was going to attend the firemans run in Jacksonville and was past the fuel and room costs till i got to the insurance requirement and that was a deal killer, they wanted $2000 for the weekend..
I really enjoy just running with a few friends at a non event - event.. i know how their gonna run their equiptment and what to expect. no big production or show to deal with just people having fun ,also less of a law enforcement presense to always be looking out for as well
i was going to attend the firemans run in Jacksonville and was past the fuel and room costs till i got to the insurance requirement and that was a deal killer, they wanted $2000 for the weekend..
I really enjoy just running with a few friends at a non event - event.. i know how their gonna run their equiptment and what to expect. no big production or show to deal with just people having fun ,also less of a law enforcement presense to always be looking out for as well
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Now I now what happened. Thats how I met You! Our lives havent been the same since ( The bar is only up the block A) Life is what we make of it and if it wasn't for boating I would have never met a great friend like You!
Thats what boating and Poker Runs are all about (Not the Money) Meeting new friends and making great memories.
Thats what boating and Poker Runs are all about (Not the Money) Meeting new friends and making great memories.
The best friends I have ever had come from the Poker run circuits! I have never felt out of place even when I was running a 22' Donzi @ 70mph.
I agree with everyone that the overall cost and time involvement for the runs is what is limiting some. However, like the Jamin' and Chesapeake runs, the NJ runs are going as strong as ever.
The reality of the situation is a conglomeration of costs, time commitment, and as Gino ststed overlapping dates that has affected attendences. In the NE where we do a handful of runs compared to Fla., it is easier to fill the runs because we only have a limited amount and season.
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I do want to go on record and say that we were the first club to institute a below 60mph class (cruiser / small boat), then a 45mph class, and we were the first club to self mandate speed limits during the runs.
The checkered flag is a carryover from the founders of the club who were offshore racers and we use the checkered flags to mark the card stops.
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I dont see how you can do one for a grand? The jacksonville Run coming up .... 600.00 entry for 4 people ...600.00 for fuel if you run Friday and Saturday and 600.00 will be tough ( and I know thats not a huge HP setup) ....plus all that has been stated ... travel (fuel) lodging ...it adds up .. To the big guns its not a big deal but I bet even some of those guys are feeling the pinch of total cost ........m
The 386 will take $700 to fill, plus the run fees and the truck gas. Puts me over a grand and the wife hasn't eaten yet. Or more importantly had a drink!
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It seems that a great deal of people assume that if a guy is driving a nice boat he isn't interested in talking to those with smaller boats. A great deal of the people I have met with upper end boats have to work extremely hard to have that boat and are some of the most down to earth people you could meet. I myself am guilty (alot of the time) of just hanging with the people I come to the run with instead of just going up and introducing myself to strangers (regardless of the boat they are in). I think if we ( all of us boaters) put ourselves out there a little more we would all have a better time.
I'm looking forward to our next run (TickFaw) and meeting more boating enthusiast.
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Now I now what happened. Thats how I met You! Our lives havent been the same since ( The bar is only up the block A) Life is what we make of it and if it wasn't for boating I would have never met a great friend like You!
Thats what boating and Poker Runs are all about (Not the Money) Meeting new friends and making great memories.
Thats what boating and Poker Runs are all about (Not the Money) Meeting new friends and making great memories.
Secondly the bar might have been a little bit of a walk, but it was downhill all the way home .....
Tom and I visit bar that is a lot closer, and it's all flat land there and back .....
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-The prices are extreme.
-The speeds are extreme.
-There are too many morons.
-The prices are extreme:
The entrance fees are simply ridiculous... If gas was 99 cents a gallon I still have a hard time forking over the entrance fee money.
-The speeds are extreme:
If you have a 'regular' performance boat and don't want to beat the hell out of it there is no place for you. It used to be that you were running fast if you cruised at 40. Now the slowest bracket has minimum speeds of 50-55. It's hard to have a smaller boat and keep up with that, and hard to have any 80's-early 90's boat and keep up with that.
-There are too many morons:
There are more people doing PR's than ever before... Anyone with a fat wallet has joined in and there are some real idiots out there with fat wallets. It used to be that you avoided the 1 or 2 morons for the day and everyone knew who they were. Now you have a ton of boats and a ton of morons... it's hard to tell who to avoid.
-The speeds are extreme.
-There are too many morons.
-The prices are extreme:
The entrance fees are simply ridiculous... If gas was 99 cents a gallon I still have a hard time forking over the entrance fee money.
-The speeds are extreme:
If you have a 'regular' performance boat and don't want to beat the hell out of it there is no place for you. It used to be that you were running fast if you cruised at 40. Now the slowest bracket has minimum speeds of 50-55. It's hard to have a smaller boat and keep up with that, and hard to have any 80's-early 90's boat and keep up with that.
-There are too many morons:
There are more people doing PR's than ever before... Anyone with a fat wallet has joined in and there are some real idiots out there with fat wallets. It used to be that you avoided the 1 or 2 morons for the day and everyone knew who they were. Now you have a ton of boats and a ton of morons... it's hard to tell who to avoid.
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Has anyone ever considered the alternative ??????????
Reading most of the threads it appears to me boredom is part of the reason people are not returning to PR events.
How about trading some of those Poker Run Boats in for Raceboats with canopies ?? They are safer, better coordinated events, Prize Purses for 1st, 2nd & 3rd place. You do not need insurance on the boat, probably use less fuel in a race, real competition, real sense of winning. Last year OSS paid out to some classes for 1st place as much as $15,000 for one race, along with all the additional incentives Mercury offers to Racers.
OSS is currently putting a program together with Tres Martin for instructing Poker Runners "How to cross over into Racing".
It would be very interesting to hear the feedback !!!!!!
Reading most of the threads it appears to me boredom is part of the reason people are not returning to PR events.
How about trading some of those Poker Run Boats in for Raceboats with canopies ?? They are safer, better coordinated events, Prize Purses for 1st, 2nd & 3rd place. You do not need insurance on the boat, probably use less fuel in a race, real competition, real sense of winning. Last year OSS paid out to some classes for 1st place as much as $15,000 for one race, along with all the additional incentives Mercury offers to Racers.
OSS is currently putting a program together with Tres Martin for instructing Poker Runners "How to cross over into Racing".
It would be very interesting to hear the feedback !!!!!!