I agree with you 100%!

OSD, a fan of us or not... I wish more people would look at it that way. Thank you

take the 5 K & walk BIG DADDY , put the 250K in a good biotech stock _ _ _ _ before the 29th of this month and roll it into 1.5 mil by year end :cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-027: good luck

RunninHot,

Jeff is talking about paying a broker when he buys a boat.

If I can get you a better rate than you can get at yor own bank why would you have a problem with a broker....bottom line is I will save you money....:cool-smiley-027::cool-smiley-027::cool-smiley-027:

It's ok. I'll change your mind over a beer or 30 in OC :)

If you're working with a professional (which I believe are about 2% of any discipline) you should get product of excellent "value". Meaning a combination of quality and price that equals a great experience at the time of purchase and over the course of ownership.

And, while we are at it, lets discuss what a "broker", what a "salesperson" and what the "others" are. I'll start a new thread so this one isn't highjacked. I've been asked to do this for a couple years so I guess it's a perfect time

$5K..... You'd have to be despirate...

I've found that the deals that don't bring any commission are the deals that for some reason or another have you doing more work than is expected and the person paying the small fee feels that you should provide the same services as if they were paying you full boat.

Not worth wasting your time on small deals and favors because they always wind up being the most amount of work. Saying no to business was the toughest thing for me to learn in sales but looking back it's one of the best skills to acquire.

My $.02

Bingo!

Know what you guys are right, brokers offer a service, the same as real estate agents do, and having been lied to by both of them it makes one have a different opinion. Being in sales myself, we all are offering a product. We all go to work everyday to make money, profit isn't a bad thing/word. Unfortunately both industries above have unscrupulous people in them, (some of the scum from boats wound up in real estate, Hionas and Chips Unc Fred).
I wont deny anyone a living, it has to do with honoring the terms of the contract, being involved in the car industry, we are already viewed as liars and thieves, some are, but that is people in general. Your word is one thing that no matter what, in the end, if you cant be trusted for your word, you have nothing...

And like Fwank says, not all business is good business.

Het offshore you are right....I try to instill values in everyone I come in contact with....even my daughter....you can spend years building relashionships with people....screw them over one time and you can never go back....If I can't take a person at there word then I have no use for them....My daughter still doesn't get it...and it really pisses me off....