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bgchuby01 05-28-2008 01:28 AM

jb that does not work sometimes. If the carrier is a contract carrier instead of a common carrier the cargo will not show. It only shows if you are common.

ChitBrick 05-28-2008 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by JB4Boyne (Post 2571880)
I believe this is the number you can call to check them out. But remember to ask if they have a valid I.C.C. MC number. A DOT number doesn't give you the right to "Haul For Hire"

(202)358-7069 Also ask the amount of cargo insurance they have on file.

Here is a link so you can check and see if they have a I.C.C. Number and the status.
li-public.fmcsa.dot.gov/LIVIEW/pkg_carrquery.prc_carrlist


good info, now my understanding is that if a hauler is violating laws IE: not for hire, no mc# no ICC etc. and there was an accident the commercial cargo insurance claim could be declined because it was on the road illegally leaving the owner of the item on the hook when the hauler disapears, Kind of like if you are sitting at a light drunk and get rear ended it is your fault because you can not be legally on the road. is this correct?

bgchuby01 05-28-2008 01:34 AM

jb if you have contract authority and not common your cargo wll not show up on the safer site. I am done with this thread since it is going nowhere. My customers know me and thats all that matters instead of this thread getting into a pissing match. JB good luck in finding your boat to haul. good nite

JB4Boyne 05-28-2008 01:54 AM

Jeff, you really have me confused here. If you are trip leasing thru your buddies co. and using his authority the only insurance you need to have is bobtail. When you are under his lease his insurance is covering the boat not yours so what good is for you to have someone call your insurance co.
You also need to have his co. name on the side of your truck while under lease and also have the boat owner write the check out to your buddies co. and not to you. I have seen many pictures on here of you hauling other peoples boats with no name or ICC number displayed on the side of your truck.

I'm just trying to help you out here buddy, I would hate to see you or anyone else hauling illegally.

I have noticed for some time that every time someone makes a post on here looking for a boat to haul you always come on and say they are doing it illegal and telling everyone to check them out.
I'm doing the same thing. I'm just giving people with the whole truth and ways for them to check it out.

ChitBrick 05-28-2008 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by JB4Boyne (Post 2571885)
Jeff, you really have me confused here. If you are trip leasing thru your buddies co. and using his authority the only insurance you need to have is bobtail. When you are under his lease his insurance is covering the boat not yours so what good is for you to have someone call your insurance co.
You also need to have his co. name on the side of your truck while under lease and also have the boat owner write the check out to your buddies co. and not to you. I have seen many pictures on here of you hauling other peoples boats with no name or ICC number displayed on the side of your truck.

I'm just trying to help you out here buddy, I would hate to see you or anyone else hauling illegally.

I have noticed for some time that every time someone makes a post on here looking for a boat to haul you always come on and say they are doing it illegal and telling everyone to check them out.
I'm doing the same thing. I'm just giving people with the whole truth and ways for them to check it out.

:hitfan:

JB4Boyne 05-28-2008 08:11 AM

I'm not trying to start anything. I just want people to understand the law.
I would hate to see a OSO brother or anyone for that matter be out some big $$$.
Say a guy has $5,000,000,000 in cargo insurance and he damages your boat. Before the insurance company pays out they will do a investigation and if they find the the carrier is operating illegally, they don't have to pay for the boat. And you know insurance co. they will do anything they can to hang on to their money.

wrinkleface 05-28-2008 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by JB4Boyne (Post 2572013)
I'm not trying to start anything. I just want people to understand the law.
I would hate to see a OSO brother or anyone for that matter be out some big $$$.
Say a guy has $5,000,000,000 in cargo insurance and he damages your boat. Before the insurance company pays out they will do a investigation and if they find the the carrier is operating illegally, they don't have to pay for the boat. And you know insurance co. they will do anything they can to hang on to their money.

Don't C anything wrong w/ someone try'n 2 point out proper procedure! Help keep all of us out of trouble! Thanx JB

Downtown42 05-28-2008 09:53 AM

JB4 has the proper documentation and haul numbers stated.

And I don't think he hauls boats around much, just his wagon.

socalstone 05-28-2008 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 2572036)
Don't C anything wrong w/ someone try'n 2 point out proper procedure! Help keep all of us out of trouble! Thanx JB

Ditto. Thanks JB. Appreciate the information and keeping everything on the up and up.
Reads to me like Chubby has a bad case of the pot calling the kettle black. Always jumps in saying everyone else is illegal or not enough insurance, when it seems he's the one that is more questionable than all the others combined.

Someone begins to point that out and he turns it into a pizzing match yet consistently fails to clearly set the record straight.

I'm just glad I don't need a boat hauled anywhere.

pasquesi 05-28-2008 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by bgchuby01 (Post 2571884)
jb if you have contract authority and not common your cargo wll not show up on the safer site. I am done with this thread since it is going nowhere. My customers know me and thats all that matters instead of this thread getting into a pissing match. JB good luck in finding your boat to haul. good nite

You are the self proclaimed expert at over the road hauling, DOT regulations, carrier insurance, how to haul a boat, etc. Yet, you have had your certification INVOLUNTARILY REVOKED, and have been arrested and extradited across the country, for grand theft. DO you think it's about time to just shut up and go away? You are a fraud, and the biggest blowhole on this site. Shut up and let other haulers who are not criminals alone.


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