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08-24-2008, 09:38 AM
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292 vs.28AT weight comp
So, although it is a good bit lighter than a newer 292; w/o steps we run within 1mph @wot...I think.
I'm @ 71.5mph @ 4800. Well, I was until my port engine started knocking....not sure what I will do next.
I've recently learned how cost prohibitive : realistic results/reliability any upgrades will be;...just fix'r up and go boatin'.
Sure would love the LSM 550's though...I guess I'll start a fund...Any donations?
08-24-2008, 10:13 AM
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BTW, the 292 is only available with twin small blocks. The 271, which was just discontinued, had the single big block.
08-24-2008, 10:24 AM
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An engine that light and powerful sounds like a great setup for a small cat(<30') and surface drives. When Skater did the 30 w/ Arnesons I thought it was a SWEET setup, but WAY pricey. These boats are very sensitive to weight, and a lighter engine mated to a lighter drive (I think the asd6 is lighter) would mean you could prop for speed without using as much hp to get the stern up. The result sounds like a really fast but nimble boat that the average offshore boater could afford.
08-24-2008, 10:28 AM
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Sorry to hear of your engine troubles. I know it probably makes sense to just fix her and go boating, but where is the fun in that!? Good luck with whatever you decide.
08-24-2008, 10:50 AM
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Well you are right on with your estimates! Typically I run 70-70.5 mph, but on a cool day she can see 71.5 mph. 28 pitch labbed Bravo's (1.65:1 gear) and 320HP 6.2's, stock.
Sorry to hear of your engine troubles. I know it probably makes sense to just fix her and go boating, but where is the fun in that!? Good luck with whatever you decide.
Sorry to hear of your engine troubles. I know it probably makes sense to just fix her and go boating, but where is the fun in that!? Good luck with whatever you decide.
I agree with the fun part; I'm a speed junkie too....but from what I'm hearing the fun will be costly and the possibility for problems will greatly outweigh the "fun-factor". (This AT28 is a huge 28' & after going 80+mph in a 17' boat it doesn't feel fast @71.)
HOWEVER, I may just fix the motor and tighten up both & install Prochargers...I'm 50/50 vs. Whipples; more $ upfront, but apparently they do the computers too and it would have to be done w/the Prochargers anyway.
BTW..I have 350magMPI's(330 crank/300prop hp) with Stainless Marine exhaust so you may have a slight hp advantage;but with the exhaust I might have 310-315 prop hp. BTw my Bravo 1's are 1.5 and props are Hydromotive QIV 26.5" pitch x 14-1/2" dia.Labbed and cut by Throttle Up.
I just would love to get to 80 for under 10k; that's my Dream!
My estimates are based on so many hours on oso! But thanks..
08-24-2008, 10:56 AM
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Nice boat!
Oh Yeah...your boat is beautiful, very classy paint. My uncle has an older(86' I think) 242 w/ 260hp 5.7's. He's had for many years and I have always been fond of Formula's.
What's your fuel consumption like w/6.2's?
I typically run 3500-3800; or 4500-4600 in PR's. Get 2.5mpg all around average..
What's your fuel consumption like w/6.2's?
I typically run 3500-3800; or 4500-4600 in PR's. Get 2.5mpg all around average..
08-24-2008, 11:06 AM
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btw, my last boat was a 110mph Talon 22, so I know what you mean about not feeling fast...
08-24-2008, 11:07 AM
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Thanks for the acknowledgement guys! We are only two years ahead of the rest of the marine engine high performance engine companies!!
The Raylar LSM550 is an awesome package as described.
The LSM550 with a Bravo HR drive and transome weighs right at 756lbs versus a 496HO at 1320lbs so I think the 500 lbs savings per motor is realistic and at about $32K with drive versus $40K plus for HP525 also has a nice price advantage for an all aluminum hand built motor with a 6,000 rpm conservative rev-limit!!
The Formula 292 in Germany has one being installed last week and I don't have performance figures yet, but it should work wonders on an already heavy boat that came with a stock 496HO iron monster!
We have two more of these babies being dynoed and broken in on the dyno'sw as we speak and they should be in their respective boats quite soon.
I think if the high performance boat market wasn't in such a down state right now we would probably have more orders than we could even handle!
We have just quoted two to Pantera for use in a new 28footer and I think there is another Sunsation customer ready to order a new 32 with the same Raylar LSM550 twin package. Both boats should be rocket ships with this power to weight ratios and the miserly fuel consumption at cruise will alsobe a big benefit with todays fuel costs.
Raylar knows that as more of these all aluminum beauties reach the market the future will speak for itself.
Just Remember that Dynamite comes in small packages!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
The Raylar LSM550 is an awesome package as described.
The LSM550 with a Bravo HR drive and transome weighs right at 756lbs versus a 496HO at 1320lbs so I think the 500 lbs savings per motor is realistic and at about $32K with drive versus $40K plus for HP525 also has a nice price advantage for an all aluminum hand built motor with a 6,000 rpm conservative rev-limit!!
The Formula 292 in Germany has one being installed last week and I don't have performance figures yet, but it should work wonders on an already heavy boat that came with a stock 496HO iron monster!
We have two more of these babies being dynoed and broken in on the dyno'sw as we speak and they should be in their respective boats quite soon.
I think if the high performance boat market wasn't in such a down state right now we would probably have more orders than we could even handle!
We have just quoted two to Pantera for use in a new 28footer and I think there is another Sunsation customer ready to order a new 32 with the same Raylar LSM550 twin package. Both boats should be rocket ships with this power to weight ratios and the miserly fuel consumption at cruise will alsobe a big benefit with todays fuel costs.
Raylar knows that as more of these all aluminum beauties reach the market the future will speak for itself.
Just Remember that Dynamite comes in small packages!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
08-24-2008, 11:16 AM
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Oh Yeah...your boat is beautiful, very classy paint. My uncle has an older(86' I think) 242 w/ 260hp 5.7's. He's had for many years and I have always been fond of Formula's.
What's your fuel consumption like w/6.2's?
I typically run 3500-3800; or 4500-4600 in PR's. Get 2.5mpg all around average..
What's your fuel consumption like w/6.2's?
I typically run 3500-3800; or 4500-4600 in PR's. Get 2.5mpg all around average..
08-24-2008, 12:24 PM
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I read as much as i could find on this package and it seems like the way to go for weight savings...Even in a older boat like mine it would be worth a shot.....Plus that is a stock basline... just think if ya started to stuff some air down its throat what kind of power you would make.....
