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  1. #31
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Well, I am in this mess also.

    Picked up the 42' excalibur and now have to rebuild the motors and re-wire, rebuild cabin and so on,so on,so on.
    Getting tired of pumping money into her and not going to see water this year and still finding things that need replacing.............

    Should have bought a new boat.


  2. #32
    My Boats:
    09 python
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Sommerfliesby, There aren't enough pages on the internet,to get into the saga of the boat that was supposed to be done two and a half years ago.

  3. #33
    Registered AIR TIME's Avatar
    My Boats:
    BAJA OL 650HP/ SABER 28 Gellner unlimited with konrad ace
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Quote Originally Posted by Audiofn View Post
    Ya I have been working on this for the last few years!!!
    what the hell happened, what was something off again a screw ha hah so you decided to start from scratch again
    , the house looks nice now, you have done a great job on it jon, when people walk in ten years from now you can point out at a straight wall or beam and say yup I did that and art watched or held the caukline ha hah oops.can't wait to do some custom tile next year.

  4. #34
    Registered StraightJacket's Avatar
    My Boats:
    38 Fountain Fever with #4's, ok so it really 35
    Join Date
    May 2006
    In a box, s. side of chi town
    Quote Originally Posted by scarrab30 View Post
    Sommerfliesby, There aren't enough pages on the internet,to get into the saga of the boat that was supposed to be done two and a half years ago.
    Cliff Notes Version:
    Spend the better half of 2 years redoing our 78 Scarab 300, New int, paint and transom . Only to run it one season and realize it needed stringers and bulkheads. Tore down to asses and plan, found a local glass genius that would do the job.
    All new Stringers, race bulkheads from dash forward. new deck cockpit, hatch, and reconfigured bottom. and new Interior again. Builder is making a mold but is short on cash so we wait. we were supposed to have it back on multiple deadlines but all failed. Is now in his shop done waiting on the bottom mold to be splashed.

    I bought a very Clean 90 , 38' Fever without power to put our motors in till we got the hull back. Needless to say since we were promised the hull for June we put the Fountain on the back burner.
    So we feel your pain and have 2 really nice row boats and a killer set of power sitting on the stand in the garage.

    It makes things harder when your just a working stiff and don't have a ton of expendable cash to finish both at once.

  5. #35
    Registered StraightJacket's Avatar
    My Boats:
    38 Fountain Fever with #4's, ok so it really 35
    Join Date
    May 2006
    In a box, s. side of chi town
    On a lighter note my 1972 factory Super stock AMC Gremlin has been sitting the better part of 21 years and no motor for the past 7 due to my ADD for things with motors.
    My 1972 custom H-D Shovelhead is done, my 2003 Road King that I have customized, and my Ez-Go Chassied buggy golf cart , and a couple other little things are all done though

  6. #36
    Platinum Member Platinum Member fountain4play's Avatar
    My Boats:
    Nor-Tech 3600 SuperCat "Suppression"
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Omaha - LOTO
    Quote Originally Posted by Apache Brave View Post
    it is good to see that thier are more people in my situation then I thought, this has made me feel better already, and I am ready to start working on the boat again, Thanks guys.
    I know what your feeling all too well, might have been a little ambitious with my little paint, new interior, new surface drives and was hoping to boat this season....

    it started last November with the motors, drives and then interior removed and then off to the painters for the next seven months...finally picked it up about seven weeks ago and it's been sitting in the shop waiting to be rigged...week by week little progress has been accomplished, watched memorial day go by, then the 4th, the shootout and now labor day...

    i'm still hoping to get the motors in and new drives on in the next couple of weeks and will be checking to see what the progress is since last weekend....and then it can finally have the new interior installed....might be ready when the oss races come to town but i'm not holding my breath on that one...
    "Life's tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid"

  7. #37
    My Boats:
    85 Formula 302
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Indy, St. Louis, LOTO
    Quote Originally Posted by Audiofn View Post
    Ya I have been working on this for the last few years!!!
    Don't forget to encapsulate that "stringer system" in fiberglass and seal all the holes well, or a few years from now you'll be tearing into it and replacing the rotten wood.

    At least you have a nice faring on the other money pit

  8. #38
    OSO Moderator Charter Member BillR's Avatar
    My Boats:
    '00 Scarab Sport 302 CC
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Virginia Beach, VA
    I think I have ya'll beat.
    The scary thing is, the boat was in GREAT shape when I bought it in '04. I just wanted to update "some stuff" and make it "my" boat. Well, I didn't know when to stop. Now I know exactly what I got and the boat looks like it was in a time warp - cause it looks like it rolled out of the 188th Street factory last week.

    Winter ‘04
    New chrome fire extinguishers
    Replace throttle cables w/ supreme 33C
    Replace Trim Tab cables w/ supreme 33C
    Paint rear rails and rail supports around hatch
    Paint front rail
    Refinish rail spacers
    Paint bolster bases w/ red to yellow fade
    Paint grab handles w/ red to yellow fade and "Cig" logo Paint dashes done by Mitcher-T
    Gauges redone f/ Platinum to chrome super bezels
    Replace Garmin 185 w/ 192C
    Replace purple bezels w/ new ones
    Replace circuit breaker covers w/ new
    Replace switch boots w/ new
    Re-caulk diamond plate
    Remove lousy Alpine amp and install old school Soundstreams
    Replace cabin door gasket
    Fix stbd side panel - was loose
    PowderCoat rear seat degree brackets
    PowderCoat rear vent on engine hatch
    Powercoat screens on engine hatch
    Paint underside of wind deflectors w/ graphic
    Paint trim tabs - added slight graphic
    Detail outdrives
    Paint all paint chips
    Re- Clear hull sides
    Buff FG in cockpit
    Install hatch gasket
    clean up stereo wiring
    re-do trim indicators - added springs & index
    Replace Spark Plugs
    Replace cap & Rotor
    Replace horn
    Fix FG for head hinges
    Replace float switch covers
    Refinish large fuel valves access hatch
    Bezels on cup holders
    Bezels on small hatch’’s in motor box
    Install Documentation #’’s
    Install Head
    Replace bent hatch keeper
    Put protective paint film on bolsters base
    Check Drives for alinement
    Repaint throttle/shifter bases - Mitcher-T
    Clean forward bilge's
    Clean carpets
    Have red trim installed on cabin seat cushions
    Replace blower hoses in bilge
    Replace cockpit carpet
    New cockpit cover
    New Mooring cover - both done by Sunrise Uph
    Add filter for air intakes
    Re-do embroidery "Top Gun" logo on bolsters Re-Do embroidery "Cigarette" logo above door.
    Add threaded brass inserts in dash and glue in.
    Re-Place speakers
    Re-Place cockpit lights
    New CMI Headers
    New Starter port motor
    New ring gear on stbd flywheel
    New Odyssey Batteries
    New Drive shower PU & hose
    New kill switch plates
    New Chrome bezel f/ Depth
    New sea water pumps - complete - w/ Globe 2000 impellers
    New Fuel pumps
    New XR drive upper 6-1-05
    Changed drive oil & flushed reservoirs both sides 6-1-05
    New PCV valves 6-11-05
    2 new oil reservoirs (center ones) 6-11-05

    Winter 05
    Motors rebuilt by Joey Griffin 630HP
    Blowers re-built and up-dated by Blower Shop
    Clean & wax bilge w/ motors out
    New Powdercoated washers f/ engine mount
    New Powdercoated washers f/ hatch lift
    New Exhaust tips w/ silicone gasket
    Rear seat re-upholstered
    Cockpit Side panels re-upholstered
    New cockpit step plates made
    RH Dash re painted by Mitcher T (& re lettered)
    New LED gauge lights
    Some new toggle boots
    New blower hose side of bilge
    Re-paint Transom
    Re-Paint Swim platform
    New Kicker Subwoofer
    New JL Cockpit speakers
    New Stereo remote
    Custom Bezel for Sony remote
    Repaint lowers
    Replace Leaking trim pump reservoir
    Install iPod adapter

    May 2006
    New IAC - both motors
    New injectors - stbd mtr rear throttle body
    Kill switch bezels
    Cig lighter bezel
    Labbed 32p Props - too much RPM
    Labbed 34 props - too hard to plane, too much prop

    June 2006
    New gimbal rings
    New U- Joint bellows
    New Shifter bellows
    New Gimbal housing stbd side
    New shifter (engine to outdrive) cables
    Oil & Filter Change 22 hrs P / 23 hrs S - Mobile 1 15 - 50 & Merc Racing oil filter

    July 2006
    Out Drive Oil Change - amsoil 75-90 severe duty

    August 2006
    Replaced SoundStream MC140 w/ MC300 - running cockpit speakers
    Replaced Kicker 10" w/ ADS A10S.2 sub
    Put new Pioneer 5 1/4" cabin speakers
    Added Soundstream SVX2 2w crossover
    Added power distribution blocks
    Added Stiffening capacitor
    Cleaned up wiring
    Sent props out to Bblades - flat pitch props & remove some cup.
    Replaced front hatch lift cylinders
    Replaced water / Fuel separators

    September 2006
    Oil & Filter Change 46 hrs P / 47 hrs S - Amsoil 20-50 & Merc Racing oil filter
    Replaced Throttle Body fuel filters
    Buffed out any scratches on hull sides.

    Winter 2006
    Oil & Filter Change 53 hrs P / 54 hrs S - Amsoil 20-50 & Merc Racing oil filter
    Replaced deck hatch latches
    Replaced water puppy strainer
    Replaced closet latch
    Replaced small cubby latches
    Replaced all cabinet hinges
    Replaced remaining swivel latches for cockpit cover
    New bezels for passenger side gauges
    New lens / rim on pass side gauges - again

    New map cover latch and plastic spacer
    Powdercoat: Front NACA ducts, battery boxes, rear side sunpad rails, diamond plate 90 degree angle, rear flap on hatch, steering ram (new) back up plates
    Repair FG - where rear hatch had rubbed, chips under shifter, stress crack on right side, stress crack under hatch, small chip @ stbd bow, passenger carpet snap, chips in cockpit floor
    Re align pass side bezels
    Painted engine room blue hatches, re-cleared passenger dash and batt box covers.
    Installed new MSD Coils - re-painted coil bracket
    Install new TFXtreme strainer cables, mounting hardware. Repainted some hardware Merc blue.
    Installed new chrome cockpit lights

    January 2007
    New steering ram BU plates - powdercoated blue
    Re-painted hatch lift arm
    Painted engine room light
    Installed new Eikert fuel pumps

    March 2007
    Installed New Corsa exhaust Tips
    Installed new silicone exhaust hoses
    TurboSonic Drive reservoir cap
    Stainless Steel Accon 207M Side Nav lights
    Install woofer grille
    Vacuum behind helm
    Replace and red loctight front rail screws
    Install new cabin door screw bracket
    Remove grease from door track
    Install missing hose clamp on trim pump wires
    Install plastic washers on hatch lift
    Installed Blue washers on lift arm
    Cleaned and remounted red/white step plates
    Swapped Soundstream SA644 for MC300
    install JL co- ax
    Clean bilge under bed and in front of curtain
    Check drive indicators and trim tab indicators for correct neutral position
    Caulk footrests
    Clean cabin
    polish A/C panel
    Polish sea strainer glass
    Install new swivel latches for cockpit cover
    Change oil in all reservoirs
    Install Drive spacer
    Swap drives L/R

    April 2007
    New Cap & Rotor
    New Zincs
    Out Drive Oil Change - amsoil 75-90 severe duty
    New wear pads
    Clean carpet in closet
    Clean Hatch in closet
    Re glue welting in cabin
    Paint / grind outdrive lowers
    Buff white on front deck
    Check thermostat cover
    Install continuity kit
    Install new drain plug gaskets
    Re-adjust stereo levels
    Grease Gimbal
    Leverage (wax) entire boat inside & out
    New TAYLOR spark plug wires number 76202
    Install Mech fuel pressure gauge
    Grease Coupler
    Clean & scrub cockpit floor
    Replace / create motor box filters
    Detail motors - use detail ball w/ speedy metal polish
    Install Re-Upholstered sun pad
    Install new trim ram bushings
    Install new K-plane ram bushings
    Install new o-rings on air cleaner
    Painted Ledge

    May 2007
    Took to Joey Griffins to check out oil leak. No oil leak, but Port bellows leaking and was replaced.

    June 2007
    Removed 1" drive spacer - lost 4 to 5 mph with it
    Changed outdrive oil - 6/25 Amsoil 75-110 severe duty
    Oil & Filter Change 68 hrs P / 68 hrs S - Mobil 1 V-Twin 20-50 & Merc Racing oil filter
    Replaced port fuel pres gauge. Still reads same - sender?
    Marine Tex’ed a new insert on pass dash. Extreme lower right.

    July 2007
    Replace both sea water pumps w/ rebuilt pumps and Globe 2001 impellers. Amsoil 75-110
    Replaced all screws on transom rubrail and sealed
    Swim platform re-powder coated and re installed w/ new screws and 5200 quick dry

    August 2007
    Rebuilt newer outdrive - pinion nut came off

    November 2007
    Oil & Filter Change 86.0 hrs P / 86.4 hrs S - Mobil 1 V-Twin 20-50 & Merc Racing oil filter
    Cover f/ Winter

    December 2007

    February - March 2008
    Removed swim platform and have PC fixed
    Fix paint on deck
    Clear Coated f/ rubrail-up
    Fix leak on gimbal housing
    Repaint / refinished bilge - Awlgrip Snow White # G8044
    New Bilge pumps
    New float switch & covers
    All new bilge & Trident silicone blower hoses
    New Mercathode
    Re-painted Motor mounts, hatch lift, battery box support - all white items
    New stringer washers
    All new cushioned clamps and screws
    Replaced Atwood Blowers
    New stringer washers
    New Transom shower housing / lid
    3m Sure Step non-skid on swim platform
    New port gimbal housing
    Repainted 38 Top Gun logo
    Re-dynoed motors - 667 HP w/ smaller pulley
    Purple Bezels for Nav lights

    April 2008
    Oil changed in blowers
    Fixed spider cracks in hatch
    New hatch rest blocks installed

    May 2008
    Fix oil leaks - Port- O ring f/ remote oil filter & Stb- distributor
    Water Presure - clear out line to gauge

    August 2008
    Port motor - Replace stock heads w/ Edelbrock aluminum heads. Gain lots more HP (stb motor to be done in winter) Stock heads rusted out the water jacket. Block 100% fine.
    Change motor oil
    Change Drive oil
    Replace 2 leaking trim reservoirs
    Last edited by BillR; 08-30-2008 at 06:13 AM.

    '00 Scarab Sport 302 CC
    '02 Cigarette Top Gun TS
    '02 PQ 340
    '00 PQ 280
    '98 Scarab 22
    '97 Baja Outlaw 20
    '72 Checkmate
    '65 Glastron

  9. #39
    My Boats:
    PQ 380 **SOLD**
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Holy cow Bill. You're right. These other projects got nothing on you! You could've easily bought a new cig with the money you've spent. But it is now "your" boat. So do you ever use the thing?

  10. #40
    Charter Member Charter Member 32fever's Avatar
    My Boats:
    37 Outerlimits & PowerPlay 185
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Granger, IN
    Quote Originally Posted by sommerfliesby View Post
    My boat runs, but the motors are coming out next month. Freshening them up, painting the bilge, new dashboard, etc...hopefully it will fair better than:

    My 1973 Corvette...needs a new front bumper, which I have purchased a year ago and is still in the box...
    My Yamaha 700SRX snowmobile...needed a new suspension part, which I have purchased and is still in the box (and the sled in pieces)...
    My 1990 Kawasaki 550SX Jet Ski...needs a new motor and has been in a state of major disrepair for a couple years now...
    My 1992 Kawasaki 750SX Jet Ski...needs a major motor rebuild...sitting (still in one piece) next to the sled...

    Ahhh....too many freakin' toys!!!!!!!!!! (I love it, tho!!!)
    Your problem is, you don't own enough boats.

    If you bring cars into it, that is more depressing.

    I feel for those that don't use their boats. We went a summer without using our boat when we had kids, and that was tough to do. Our new boat has been in and out of the shop for things, but usable on weekends.

    I need to finish putting a radiator in my 78 Lincoln so we can do our fall color tour car cruise and my Iroc needs an alternator. (runs great, just not for long..LOL!) 8 cars and 2 boats, 12 motors to keep running, not counting the tractors and yard tool motors. It's really a disease. I need therapy. "sell it all, you can still drink alcohol standing or kneeling in a kiddie pool, you don't need a lake"

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