hay rog,how are you?havent seen you in a while.have you talked to jack w lately?:eek:

Wow. All this due to one persons mistake (missing bolt). Amazing how it has escalated to the point it is now. A lot of hard feelings and animosity building. A shame, really is.

Not to minimize the extent of damage done, but mistakes happen. I am sure all involved have made mistakes, I sure have. No bash directed at anyone, just sad to see this conflict materialize over such a small thing.

Good luck with your engines Bill, I am sure you will be very happy with them when they are up and running. I have seen Garys\40 Skater at Havasu and his engines were way impressive.

Sam

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2. I really like the Ice Injection System, it's a really neat product, but please tell the truth. In a prior post you basically said the 1300hp your motors make are not because of Larry's but the Ice Injection System. You had the system on BEFORE you took the motors to Larry, Bill, and they made FAR less than 1300. After seeing the nice setup they sent over and seeing the system in action I'm going to get a system myself, so don't think I'm down on them, just give credit were credit is due.
3. I'm sorry I did not get videos of your dyno runs. The shop is over 35 min away from my work. I told you I would TRY and get over there. With our company laying off a bunch of people, I simply do not have the time I used too. The one day I did see them run was one of the days they stayed late and pulled your motors a few times after 6pm. I thought they did very well. I don't even have vids of my motors being pulled!

# 2 Well said ERIK the ICE INJECTION SYSTEM is a nice set-up and Glenn,Pattie,& Rudy are a class act and do what they say , and say what they do :ernaehrung004:

# 3 Wa Wa Wa no biggie on the Vids but i call Bullchit you called me on the phone there in there parking lot late morning and were impressed how low it kept the EGTs .. :Whatever:

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4. I don't see how you can blame Larry for your blowers needing to be freshened. They packed them up and sent them out for you, that's it. You didn't even know what size they were!!! You advertised 1471's but had 1271's. I'm sure you had more explaning to do than just the teflon refresh!! Larry also hooked you up with a SMOKING deal on Gary's 1671's. You think you would have got that deal without him???
5. If you wanted to use a different cam or send your heads out to be done, you should have spoken up before you sent your motors in. I'm sure those companys do great work, but Larry knows exactly what works, what hp, and so on. He didn't want to try something different on your motors.


# 4 U must be hard of hearing bro I told you i was'nt blaming Larrys for the torn up Teflon but would of been nice to tell me about it instead of boxing them anyway and shipping them to my buyer and Larry personally telling me YOU DID'NT PAY ME TO INSPECT YOUR BLOWERS... cool i'll pay and make it right cause thats the kinda guy i am :cool-smiley-027: as far as me not knowing what blowers i had what does that have to do with anything ??? Larrys had the motor since November and claims to have dyno'd over 900 motors to date and did'nt realize till after he ran them on the dyno at 39% overdriven on jan 29th and Larrys dyno sheets even have 1471s on them but on Feb 2nd when the 1671s showed up he called and said guess what i just found out ..
Cant a motor bldr tell the diff between a 10,12,14,1671 where she goes over the distributor??


# 5 So to have a custom cam ground by Bob Madera , or headwork by Jim Valako even thought the motor was'nt put together and still being honed,machined makes a difference and nothing ever changes in a build ??? Seems to me nothing could be changed because it was a identical copy of your motor,pistons,big chief:mad:
Dont engine bldrs try different things , and learn along the way ?? I tried to explain to Larry not everyone can be the best at everything , If a general contractor pics the best concrete guys,drywallers,carpet,roofers,carpenter you dont put the concrete man in a 2 million dollar house to hang Cherry cabinets ..... Larry said IM THE BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool-smiley-027:

All of this s--t over a broken 12" aluminum tube with a o-ring at each end.SHAME SHAME SHAME.
AS to the blowers i sold you-larry did step in and convince me to sell you the adapter plate and the snout because i would not be using them for the whipple set up.I am now sorry i didnt charge you for them instead of giving them to you.
Eric is right -you have been tellig half truths on this thread
Bill -this BS needs to end.GARY

[QUOTE=RunninHotRacing158;2812015]You bad mouthed skater to me as is described above .You seem to have selective memory .:Whatever:

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6. I have asked you time and time again....what broke on your motors, and you continue to dodge the question. With your hard to understand posts, you have many people believe your motor smashed down and ruined the oil pump, pan, and who knows what else. The fact is the motor probably moved 2 to 3 inches and kinked an outside oil line. The kink made a crack and the oil leaked out. KE sent you the wrong parts, since it is a very old system. They then asked you to send them the tube and they will make you a new one. Larry has also asked you to just send them the tube and he will make you one. THE FACT IS YOU WONT LET ANYBODY HELP YOU!!! You never sent the tube and just continued to bash on the internet. They both offered you to make a brand new tube but you continue to dodge them.

LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE were sent pic & emails even of the wrong parts and coresponding emails that i sent parts back thru my FED EX ... I think i even posted a email a few pages back... It is the Keith Eickert Pan /pump oiling system , my darling if it was just a kinked line the motor would of been in the boat already c'mon its 2.5 weeks :mad: as far as help i have been overwhelmed with offers from OSO guys but the parts are being CNC made, welded,worked on a lathe not real hip with the machine shop lingo but if not accepting help means LARRYS well patch it up , and its tooo expensive to have a program written to CNC 1 part and we dont pay backcharges ......well cost is not an object at this point and she'll be back together and presure tested nothing i hate more then a dirty bilge , and he'll we may even dyno her again since they forgot to hook up the BSF#s and Larry told me only nascar motors need bsf #s to calculate fuel so they dont run out ... But what do i know im dreamin :ernaehrung004: good luck with your motors and see ya'll at desert storm

[QUOTE=RunninHotRacing158;2812038]Again-selective memory.You told me that your blowers were 12-71 and that they were freshened 10 hours ago-yet you advertised them as 14-71s.
Your motors made 900 hp and now make 1300hp.They were a mess.Larry gave you a great job of straigtening them out.
Keith Eickert even offered to make you a new tube as did larry but you refused and continue to slander him.I wouldnt be surprised if you get served with a arizona lawsuit at desert storm.You certinly deserve to be sued.

AND THE DRAMA GOES ON:food-smiley-007: