I have operated those brand boats (but I like Skater) but if I am fair and balanced when it comes to factual observation and experience when it comes to any brand (based on what I see and experience), as you are you brand loyal to OL and have been there and done that in an OL - therefore I see where you are coming from.
I am against people getting hurt when they go boating, I am sure you will agree with me on that point.
PS I deleted all of my prior posts, I like OSO and OL, nuff said - be safe enjoy your summer
Last edited by Smarty; 06-12-2009 at 11:09 PM. Reason: Be safe, enjoy life it is too short to dicker over who or what is to blame
This is a sick picture of the crash!
Seriously, why do you hate on stepped boats so much? They are simply an advanced design, that require an educated driver to operate, just like any race car?
Do you have the opinion that someone who regularly drives a Suburban, should be able jump in, and be able run an Indy car safely at it's top speed?
I'm seriously just asking, I'd try to PM, but my others get returned to sender, lol.
Last edited by BLee; 06-18-2009 at 10:27 AM. Reason: more bad spelling
From this post on page one.
Stepped boats, from the very beginning (pre-1910), were known to be enigmas with respect to handling. When Chris Smith (eventually known for Chris-craft) first built a stepped boat in 1914, he put on just one step, instead of a series of steps all others were using at the time (and OL uses today). He found that if the step was at or just forward of the CG, the boat was very stable dynamically. Some may find it interesting that this is exactly the same design philosophy used on the Howard 28 that has been praised for its handing, even though its relatively small and even with very high HP and speed (over 120 mph!).
So while the OL boats are unquestionably well built, they do utilize the same basic step design as has been recognized for a century as resulting in unpredictable handing including porpoising and directional problems.
I would challenge the statement about unpredictable handling, porpoising & directional problems. I can only speak for the OL, but I have over 1000 hours behind the wheel of various Outerlimits, and I have not experienced any of the above characteristics. In fact I have had to make several high speed turns in our 51 quad step to avoid some partially floating debris, as well as navigate some pretty tight and windy chanels, and the boat has always done what expected, and did not feel loose at all. The difference is I knew how the boat liked to be trimmed and set up.
Getting back to what BLEE previously stated, these boats are very similar to high horsepower performance cars, I would not expect to go into a turn in a Ford GT or a Porsche GT2 with my foot to the floor and expect it to turn with out any consequences, you need Knowledge, Common Sence, and respect for what you are driving / operating.
That being said, the unfortunate accident had nothing to with the boat being a stepped bottom or a coventional bottom, The accident did not occur as a result of turning, in fact all of the details are just merely speculation, as those involved in the accident have yet to comment other than to report that they hit a big wake.
Let's focus on the well being of all involved before we start re-inventing the debate on steps versus no steps.
Hey Animialhouse, why dont you post all the statistics for Outerlimits. Been in business since 1996 etc. How many boats built , ......
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