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2112 12-15-2009 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by BenPerfected (Post 3005963)
Go here:
http://go-fast.com/bam_marine_knowledge_base.htm and click on Speed Calculation. This is the easy way with out doing the math. I can dig out the formula if you want it. Once your boat set up is optimised (balance/drive height/bottom/strake position/etc) this "constant" becomes a fixed/constant for a given boat. What makes speed now is less weight or more HP.
Set up is why RF's boats are fast...he is a master. Today, Fountains better hulls are in the 275+ range.
If you know the boat weight and have Mercury power, it is easy to see what boats are most efficient. Why do some/many boat manufactures not provide accurate weights?...maybe so you can't tell their hull is less than world class.
On our old Scarab, we moved the hull efficiency to 252 from 222 as delivered from Wellcraft....with TRS drives and a hook in the bottom.


I just used that calculator. Damn. It hit my top speed right on the nail. :eek:

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2112 12-15-2009 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3005880)
I thought the same thing. To buy a piece of history like that and then tow it 1500 miles with a 30 year old Ford is sheer lunacy.

Though I agree, a boat with history is not necessarily a valuable boat.

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blue thunder 12-15-2009 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by 2112 (Post 3006075)
I just used that calculator. Damn. It hit my top speed right on the nail. :eek:

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Me too. Amazing. Benperfected, what do you consider the wieght of your panther? How much of the move from 222 to 252 was in the hook? Hook is on my list this winter.

ThreeBears 12-15-2009 11:46 AM

dumb question ... what is a 'hook'?

BenPerfected 12-15-2009 01:08 PM

Blue,
The last time I checked (2002), it was 9500 lbs with two people and 30-40 gal of fuel. The hook was part, but the balance was also important. Good balance to me is the boat is stable in flat water with no porpoise at WOT with the drives fully trimmed and the tabs neutral.
The biggest deal/improver was the high X with Bravos....60-80%...oh, and the Imco lowers was big at 4 MPH past 90 MPH.
Three bears,
Hook is when the hull turns down at the transom. You can check yours by putting a long straight edge on the bottom (transom forward). Removing the hook may get you some speed, but you might not like the way the boat rides at cruise.

tomtbone1993 12-15-2009 04:03 PM

so is any body on this thread interested in a clean 91 triple or side by side 42 Fountain bravo boat with no power?

blue thunder 12-15-2009 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by BenPerfected (Post 3006294)
Blue,
The last time I checked (2002), it was 9500 lbs with two people and 30-40 gal of fuel. The hook was part, but the balance was also important. Good balance to me is the boat is stable in flat water with no porpoise at WOT with the drives fully trimmed and the tabs neutral.
The biggest deal/improver was the high X with Bravos....60-80%...oh, and the Imco lowers was big at 4 MPH past 90 MPH.
Three bears,
Hook is when the hull turns down at the transom. You can check yours by putting a long straight edge on the bottom (transom forward). Removing the hook may get you some speed, but you might not like the way the boat rides at cruise.

Thanks Benperfected. Sorry for the HJ Jesse. :drink:

Jesse James 12-17-2009 12:13 AM

no problem...learning lots....thanks everyone

luckyguy 12-17-2009 01:56 PM

Top speed calcs
 

Originally Posted by 2112 (Post 3006075)
I just used that calculator. Damn. It hit my top speed right on the nail. :eek:

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I ran the calcs on my 2002 38' Fountain, stock 525s (550hp at prop ea.), 7,900 lb (epoxy lay up). With a conservative set up (1 1/2" spacer) run of the mill 6 blades the boat runs 104 mph. With no spacer and quality props it runs 107. The conservative set up almost exactly matches the 275 ratio for the recreational cats. Love him or hate him Reggie through trial and error has designed a very efficent hull. Wonder if the higher numbers are due to the step hull design? Cool thanks for the thread interesting!

jmoore1225 12-17-2009 02:43 PM

You have an 02 38 that runs 104 with stock 525's? How is that when 08 35's run only run those #'s. You have a light lay-up no cabin or somethin? J/c


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