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Thats like blaming a new LS7 Vette for being a dangerous vehicle
because some idiot tried to take a turn at 180mph and drives into a tree. No matter how technically advanced any vehicle is (boat,car,bike,plane) there is always some idiot that can wreck it.. Yeah a 3cyl Yugo would probably be easier to drive (like the Baja example) but even then someone will find a way to wreck it. Money can't buy talent or experience.. That has to be learned.. |
Originally Posted by fountain40icbm
(Post 3132592)
WTF are you smokin! There's nothing wrong with the bottoms but the simple fact that people dont know how to drive the boats properly. You can take a Baja and roll it too!! There is no unique or any problems with Outerlimits bottoms. End of story!
or a sutphen too:gfight: just kidden DAN, but really if you take a left turn in any boat and put the left k plane down you will spin or roll any boat step or straight. the boat wants to lean in and your pushing in the other direction:eek::eek: wipe OUT. OL makes a great boat and its nice they offer the school all boat co should that sell boats with speeds over 80. |
Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown
(Post 3132603)
Ed, I say respectfully, that if you had the left tab down, doing 60 in my non-stepped bottom Baja, unless you turned the wheel WAY too much, I highly doubt that anything would happen.
Why? Because my tabs are dinky little whimpy tabs that don't do much (they're single piston, Bennet tabs that are approximately 9 X 12), the drives are TRS drives (which are deep drives), and the boat is super user friendly. Which only adds to the argument that some boats are much more user friendly than others, and some boats are more prone to accidents than others. |
Originally Posted by Jpzaluski
(Post 3132860)
Are people having trouble understanding what is going on under a boat physically? Having an inside tab down during a turn is about the same as putting a set of training wheels on a motorcycle, running 60 MPH, and turning hard left and expecting it NOT to flip. Unload the rear of something that's supposed to be in the water, load a portion of the hull that shouldn't be in the water, and then effectively not allow a V-hull to lean into a turn, and I'm fairly sure that spells disaster at anything over idle speed. Let me go put the inside tab down on my Fountain and turn hard.... relatively sure I could flip that too.
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Originally Posted by LubeJobs42
(Post 3132970)
Many of the people that buy these boats have not had a boat of this caliber before. Remember, everyone is an amateur once. Most guys that can afford a million plus dollar boat and want to impress their friends are not going to buy a 50 mph boat.
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Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown
(Post 3132612)
The funny thing is fountain, I've never really commented about their boats! That's YOU being defensive about nothing.
The only thing close that I said about the performance of the 42' OL is that they "seem less forgiving than many other hull designs," which was based on the prior OL discussion of the one that rolled. And even then I went on to qualify the statement by saying "If that's not the case, and all of these larger, high HP, stepped hull boats are rolling over at a high rate, than maybe courses should be offered with all of them." Which again DOESN'T MAKE ANY CLAIMS ABOUT STEPPED HULL BOATS. It's an IF and a THEN statement. The ONLY thing that I've said is IF there is a problem THEN something needs to be done about it, period, but people like you get uber protective about their favorite boat manufacturers and put words into people's mouths and then claim... "this is brand bashing!!!," which it clearly is not... |
Originally Posted by Timeless61
(Post 3132928)
i think i may just be comparing a cat to a V and they are just 2 completely different animals and the width of a cat also riding on air, and such just makes it feel a bit different
My experience with cats, like yours with V's, is limited. The few times I have been on cats I did not feel safe, especially the 28 OB skater I was on. Nothing against the boat, I just wasn't used to it. The thing I did not like about the 36' cat I was in was how when you were riding in quartering seas one sponson would come out of the water and the boat would want to turn left or right depending on which sponson was out of the water. My instincts made me react by turning the wheel slightly to keep the boat going straight but the more I drove it the more I realized I just needed to let it happen and keep the wheel straight. So as the one sponson lifted the boat turned slightly but when the wave got to the other sponson and it lifted the boat turned the other way and I stayed on my original course... I figured it out quickly but it was just weird.. It's something I had to get used to and wasn't sure if I wanted to get used to it permanently. One thing I liked a lot about the cat was how stable they were at high speeds and actually a smoother ride. There's no denying it. Less driving seemed to be needed... However, a Cat does not fit in with my boating style (family, overnight trips etc.) On the flip side, I was helping drive a 46' OL with trips last summer. I was running trim while he throttled and steered... It was the first time both of us drove the boat. It took me about 20 minutes to get used to how the boat ran and what it liked.. We started off slow...it's no Apache... ;) But once I got it dialed in and we ran near 100 mph in 3-4 ft seas it was a great ride. :) |
Originally Posted by fountain40icbm
(Post 3132681)
Yes, you can comment on anything without being in one as you stated. I should have stated how can you say Outerlimits needs to re-design their bottoms without running in one. You going to be at the Atlantic City run? Also to add to this, this particular boat was bought as a repo from a bank through legendary marine
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