Smarty

If there are only two incidents with the 42' model, what size boat was it that ejected it passeneger (a girl) in a Connecticut Poker several years ago (this information is first hand from a passenger - an OL Dealer - who was in the boat). And this accident was due to driver error according to the witness, I do not disagree with that at all. Just restating history not making an opinion from the hip.

I cetainly do not know it all, but I am just trying to understand. I would have no problem owning or operating the OL product. If I could afford a new OL, I think they are one of the of the best V's built in the world.

wjb21ndtown

I don't care if you've owned 10 boats before an OL, if you're stepping up to what is basically an offshore race boat with a toilet you're still an amateur. All I'm saying is that they're marketing these boats to non-expert boat drivers, and the boat has to have a degree of forgiveness.


It depends what they have experience driving... Even if its driving a 35' Cig w/o a stepped bottom I would still say that they're amateurs in a 42' boat that has a stepped bottom. By all accounts they're a completely different animal. In fact, it seems to me that someone with a ton of experience in a non-stepped boat may be worse off than someone without. The stepped boats are apparently a lot less forgiving than non-stepped hulls.


I just mean that these are more or less fully ready race boats with cabins.

I fully understand this, 100%. That said, OL's seem less forgiving than many other hull designs. If that's not the case, and all of these larger, high HP, stepped hull boats are rolling over at a high rate, than maybe courses should be offered with all of them. After all, they are $300k + each, it wouldn't kill them to offer their own training course or outsource a course to teach people how to drive their boats.

Mastercraft240

They offer the course, thats all they can DO!

animalhouse

Smarty,

I am not aware of the connecticut passenger ejection. I am speaking of roll over type incidents. Again, as you stated it was driver error.

I have been ejected out of a few boats (none OL's ) and I have no resentment for the manufacturer, as it was stupidity on my friends' part that led me to go swimming. For the record 2 of those times weren't on performance boats, but they were Center Consoles where the driver surfed on a boat wake and came down the back side.

In any event I know of a cigarette in Rhode Island that ejected all of it's passengers a few years back, I know of a Nortech that ejected all of it's passengers, and I know of a few fountains that ejected it's passengers in New York, not to mention the infamous ghost ridden cigarette in russia & who couldn't forget the infamous Fountain in Florida that rolled causing Cash Bar to ride it home like Shamoo.

In any performance boat there are implied risks and responsibilities to be had by the owner / operator. It starts with respect of the craft you are running & common sence to check your ego at the door and if you don't know what you are doing, than don't be afraid to ask.

Smarty

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Big Time

So what do you have to operate before you are allowed to operate a 42 ft stepped bottom boat? At what point do you not become an amateur? I guess I am just confused as to what you constitute and amateur vs. someone who is above that status? How do you get above amateur status if you never take that next step?

Smarty

internet site.

Smarty

Excellent points, implied risk/responsibility, know the boat, and common sense that sums it up right there. Thank you for the reply. Off topic, when is that 28' boat scheduled to be built? There is alot of interest (not sure if all were tire kickers, or how many real buying prospects you have) in that boat from other postings on this site forum and in another boating internet site.

animalhouse

We are moving forward with the 28, but have a substantial backlog of existing orders that we are building right now. As soon as we get some breathing room, we will dive into the 28.

pm203

Same with the 36?