X-rated 30, now THAT'S funny !!! This kinda reminds me of the guy that goes into a strip club for a lap-dance, and none of the girls want to dance on him. So, he goes on the internet to bash the strip club. WTF,:eek: some guys don't have any common sense let alone self pride. LMFAO What's really funny is, in the other thread, he set himself up as a wounded fish in a sea of sharks, just waiting to go in for the kill. LOL :lolhit:
Gonna have every shark in the water bitin at his a$$ He better think about takin up golf or somethin. LMFAO

Scott,
If you think i bashed you then you still dont understand the whole reason i posted the thread. Disapointment is the key word and you should learn from this experience. The fact is more buyers should post good or bad feedback about the companies they have delt with. I understand you are a large dealer and a busy family man. I understand for the most part your company has good feeback, this was the whole reason we were excited this boat was at your dealership. You decided not to correct the situation and to "bow out" so here we are. I am not afraid to come out in public when i feel it is my right to voice my opinion so others can learn from this experience. You deleted your posts so others could not see the remarks and hypothetical situations you made about my uncle and myself. If anyone made the marine business look bad it was you. To say we "yelled" at your service manager is not cool because it never happend. I was involved in the transaction the whole time its just you never knew about it because i never got a chance to meet you on the day we were suppose to come. I dont plan on posting anymore on this topic unless i have to respond to another one of your posts.

Jt

Things I've learned on OSO this week.
1. When trying to buy a boat out of state for whatever reason deals fall through, don't take it personally. Go find another deal instead of grieving to a website.
2. If you're a huge midwest boat dealer, never, ever get into an internet battle no matter how much you think you need to defend yourself. Go hire a PR rep(it will be money well spent).
3. An OL is machine that when properly operated has a history of stability and saftey. When operated incorrectly there is a potential for failure. It is your right as an american to be able to purchase one of these high powerd boats and it is your responsibility as a boater to learn how to operate it saftely.
4. If you're a major boat dealer or a major boat producer and controversial threads in which you are involved in discussions suddenly become locked or deleted people will think the worst about you.

All of the bashing stories are ONLY the ones that have been posted here on the net. Think about how many bad stories don't get posted here or anywhere else. I know of some real good ones but, they never hit the internet. Its more "word-of-mouth" with the people I hang out with and word gets around fast. IMO, the postings of people upset with their sale or service gives the other party a chance to defend itself and/or the opportunity to make things right and good. It keeps consumers and sellers on their best game because a bad deal can be called out on the internet forums.

I personally like how Team Shogren, deletes all of the posts on a certain topic, then, Just Manages To Get The LAST Word In on the subject and then its LOCKED!

Interesting indeed.

Jt

The buyer was anxious..possibly wanting to buy a boat..but many never brought up the fact that he mentioned he has bought boats before.. they were a boat buying team as he put it...No deposit was ever put down and done over the internet...I have never bought a boat this way...pick up the fricken phone and talk to someone..we all b!tch when we call someplace to get an automated anwser .... and it gets worse for me when I have to speak to a Habeeb that wants to sell me a slurpie after the transaction...but thats another thread..

Then look at it from Shrogrens prospective.. the guy can't even take a day off with out some type of BS...yes it happens to all of us including me in my business..My problem with the whole deal was that Shogren was not even dealing with the buyer..it was a relation...You know how much more BS is involved and how things can get conscrewed.. Just my point of view.. Have a great day. Everybody go make some money so you can spend it..for the economies sake....Jeff

Understand.
 

JT,

Would have been more than happy to work something out with Chris however, I never discussed the boat with you, never negotiated with you, don't know you, never met you then I get to my office and I have an email blasting me and telling me you are posting it on OSO for the OSO community. Are you the one that called my office and also ripped my service manager who is not involved in sales as well or was that Chris?

Now you not Chris is the one blasting me on OSO. Sorry, I guess it should have been handled differently and I should have gotten back to Chris quicker. My apologies.

Maybe you are done now and we can all move on, life's to short and there are alot of good dealers with good deals that would like to earn/have your business. Going back and forth is not healthy and I don't want to point fingers or point blame. If I screwed up, shame on me. For all I know Chris is a great guy and could have been a great customer. If that's the case, I lose and that's my fault.

Have a great summer boating and if Chris want's a boat down the road maybe him and I can work something out.

I will not post anymore on this and will move on. Have never done this in 7 years of being in this business and have never taken a lashing like this so I hopes it's the last.

This thread is about bashing, not for you and I to go back and forth. If you want to bash/discuss, pick up the phone and call me 847-336-9037. I will be in all day after 9am CST.

Regards,

Scott Shogren

www.teamshogren.com

Why dont you make right? shake hands and sell the guy the boat.done end of story!