Chris I think 88-89 is very good. Yes I have heard of some fast fountains, etc. 100+MPH with 525's not sure about that, but either way most times the big number people hear about are with the boat striped down, low fuel, pro driver, good water, etc. When we ran the boat there was 4 of us "big guys" 3/4 tanks of fuel, gear for a weekend on the lake. I sure there is more MPH in prop changes alone for that boat. It was set up as a family boat for the owner IE acceleration and drive ability. Not top speed. But yes I agree Howard needs there own section! Hello OSO!!